Billy Joel Remastered Cd's

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Scott Sheagren, May 15, 2019.

  1. Scott Sheagren

    Scott Sheagren I’m a Metal,Rock,Jazz Fusion,Gaga type of guy. Thread Starter

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    Anyone have a problem with the 1998 remastered series Billy Joel cds?
    Because they sound fantastic to me.But i never had any other cd to compare them to.
     
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  2. Grant

    Grant Audiophile and Music Fan

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    We have gone over this on another thread I think may still be open for new replies. Anyway, I initially praised the remasters but since have realized that the older Cds do sound clearer and more dynamic. The remasters aren't bad, but they could have been better. I have since rebought all of the original CDs and have gotten rid of the remasters. What does that tell you?
     
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  3. johnny 99

    johnny 99 Down On Main Street

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    I have The Stranger, 52nd Street, Glass Houses, Songs From The Attic and An Innocent Man and I'm fine with all of 'em.
    They sound good!
     
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  4. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    You need the unremastered version of Turnstiles if you want the original version of New York State of Mind (with a different sax line than the remaster).
     
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  5. FACE OF BOE

    FACE OF BOE Forum Resident

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    You can get the remastered Turnstiles with the original version of New York State of Mind on the limited Complete Albums Collection from 2011.
     
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  6. Tin Whisker

    Tin Whisker Forum Resident

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    I'm fairly certain everything has been discussed in another thread at some point (probably multiple times).:D
     
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  7. kenbefound

    kenbefound Forum Resident

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    I'm a cheap bastard and spent the money on the MoFi SACD hybrids; never looked back. IMHO they sound the best of all the digital releases.
     
  8. Ron Stone

    Ron Stone Offending Member

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    I think Billy Joel's catalog is one of those rare, happy instances where (almost) all the CD versions sound pretty good: see also Paul Simon, Allman Brothers, Fleetwood Mac, Meters, etc.

    Yeesh, to think those remasters are now old enough to drink . . .
     
  9. Scott Sheagren

    Scott Sheagren I’m a Metal,Rock,Jazz Fusion,Gaga type of guy. Thread Starter

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    Wow no kidding!thank you
     
  10. I think they're quite good, the thing that bothers me most is that Turnstiles does not feature the original version of "New York State Of Mind". Sure, I like the Mofi SACDs I've heard better, but with them being more than 3 times as expensive the 1998 remasters are still a decent option for the less devoted fan. They're obviously made from much better sources than the early European CDs that were in print over here before the remasters came out.
     
  11. Scott Sheagren

    Scott Sheagren I’m a Metal,Rock,Jazz Fusion,Gaga type of guy. Thread Starter

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    im gonna have to find me a Turnstiles original cd to get the original New York State of Mind.thank you group!
     
  12. Curiosity

    Curiosity Just A Boy

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    I was very happy to buy them including Greatest Hits, setting me up well for everything before The Bridge.
     
  13. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff

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    The way to go for Billy's albums from "Piano Man", through until "Innocent Man", are the MFSL SACD's along with the Audio Fidelity "Streetlife Serenade".
     
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  14. folkfreak

    folkfreak Forum Resident

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    The remasters are perfectly fine for me and in case of Streetlife Serenade a must (if not the AF) because of the missing bit in Root Beer Rag on the original cd.
     
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  15. Scott Sheagren

    Scott Sheagren I’m a Metal,Rock,Jazz Fusion,Gaga type of guy. Thread Starter

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    That album is my favorite by him.
     
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  16. Futurecity

    Futurecity Forum Resident

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    I have about 5-6 of the 1998 CDs and they sound good for the time, but I thought The Stranger sounded a little off to me? I always thought the '98 CDs had a kind of processed sound quality to them?

    I never bought the very expensive 2011 Complete Albums Box, but I do have the HITS and LOVE SONGS CDs, which use the 2011 modern remasters, and I vastly prefer the more modern audio on those compared to the 1998 CDs! Do you own Hits and Love Songs?
     
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  17. Scott Sheagren

    Scott Sheagren I’m a Metal,Rock,Jazz Fusion,Gaga type of guy. Thread Starter

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    I do not but am curious about this complete album box you talk about
     
  18. Futurecity

    Futurecity Forum Resident

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    You might want to pick up the HITS comp and/or the LOVE SONGS CD as well, to see if you like the 2011 remasters. The audio sounds modern and rich on these two comps and the songs sound full as well.
     
  19. walrus

    walrus Forum Resident

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    They're very loud. I haven't heard them, but I can't imagine they sound great, especially compared to earlier versions that are easy to find.

    Album list - Dynamic Range Database
     
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  20. Scott Sheagren

    Scott Sheagren I’m a Metal,Rock,Jazz Fusion,Gaga type of guy. Thread Starter

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    as i kind of figured compressed to hell im sure
     
  21. walrus

    walrus Forum Resident

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    But they sound "modern"! :laugh:
     
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  22. shaboo

    shaboo Forum Resident

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    DR 8 or DR 9 is far from "compressed to hell". Don't know why people constantly overexaggerate when it comes to compression. They may be too compressed for your taste and that's fine, but you should reserve terms like this for actual brickwall masterings with DR 5-6 (or even lower).
     
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  23. dprokopy

    dprokopy Forum Resident

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    Has anyone picked up (well, downloaded) any of his hi-rez releases? Are those just the same as the most recent masters? Curious if they're worth the double-dipping if I already have the MoFis, and the remasters for the others.
     
  24. walrus

    walrus Forum Resident

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    Not saying they're the worst ever, but considering there's three other options for most of his catalog (80's, 1998 remasters, and Mofi), all of which are considerably more dynamic...there's really no reason to go this route? I think his stuff was very well recorded, for the most part, so it's not a matter of compression working to compensate for or beef up an iffy recording, which is sometimes okay.
     
  25. walrus

    walrus Forum Resident

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    They're the 2011 ones, I believe. Like, this DR7 hi-res Storm Front (probably a 16/44 recording anyway): Album details - Dynamic Range Database
     

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