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Bob Dylan - After The Empire & 1985 Rehearsals

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by soniclovenoize, Jun 19, 2016.

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  1. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    Not a dumb question, but I think you're confusing the two recently leaked sets. Jason was referring to After The Empire, which is all previously unknown originals (aside from the last track). There is also a set of rehearsals with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, which match what you describe.
     
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  2. John Rhett Thomas

    John Rhett Thomas Forum Resident

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    I didn't get a chance to fully listen to the studio demos before they were evaporated. Bummer.
     
  3. Heart of Gold

    Heart of Gold Forum Resident

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    No DAT in studio in 1985. You can listen to the analog hiss tape.
     
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  4. goodnitesteve

    goodnitesteve bootleger

    DAT did not exist then, but these types of recordings have circulated before with Infidels and Shot of Love. Basically, it's Dylan laying down the basic track with unfinished or dummy lyrics and he would go back and sing over it at a later session. Perhaps, these tapes were made for him to work from before he scrapped it? I also remember reading that there were two track recordings being made of the entirety of the Infidels session, for what reason I don't know. Posterity or to capture some unguarded magic? Nevertheless, these were skeletons for Dylan songs that he never finished. He had done it before and ultimately, he must have done it again. I would hope we'd hear all of those tapes someday. They're fascinating as they show the artist at work.
     
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  5. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    They will be widely available in the next few weeks, I think.
     
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  6. Chemguy

    Chemguy Forum Resident

    The 85 rehearsal...Bob does the Beatles!

    Come Together, no less! Too much fun!
     
  7. John Rhett Thomas

    John Rhett Thomas Forum Resident

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    I figure. I was hoping to listen to them on a road trip tomorrow, though. Ah well. :)
     
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  8. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    He's covered the Beatles elsewhere, too.
     
  9. Chemguy

    Chemguy Forum Resident

    Go on...
     
  10. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    Offhand, he's performed "Yesterday" (on the 1970 George Harrison tape), "Nowhere Man" (live in 1990), "Something" (live in 2002). He also recorded "Things We Said Today" for the McCartney tribute album. Am I missing anything?

    There's also "Roll On John," which extensively quoted various Beatles songs.
     
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  11. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    They are already widely available.
     
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  12. GuidedByJonO)))

    GuidedByJonO))) Forum Resident

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    I haven't had any luck tracing them down just yet, sadly missed the YouTube window. Imagine they'll be easier to hear in the coming weeks.
     
  13. the pope ondine

    the pope ondine Forum Resident

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    I wonder if Dylan even remembers some of these songs.....it must be odd for him to listen back to these
     
  14. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    Brief cover of Here Comes The Sun in 1981, and he would be onstage when Jo Ann Harris sang The Long And Winding Road in 1978.

    You listed all the good ones though!
     
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  15. smoke

    smoke Forum Resident

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    Love the "arthur itus" about 1:00 into the first come together, and his nonsense lyrics in other places, too.
     
  16. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    Shades of Fred G. Sanford
     
  17. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    These are "jam tracks" which are very easy to dismiss. But yeah, they're kinda great, too.
     
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  18. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    Oooooohhhhhhhh ok, thanks for clearing that up! :)
     
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  19. babyblue

    babyblue Pactches Pal!

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    I found them without much effort at all, and I'm not an expert collector by any means.
     
  20. Say It Right

    Say It Right Not for the Hearing Impaired

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    Does anybody know if Dylan b/w T.P & Heartbreakers ever performed "Band of the Hand" live?
     
  21. DmitriKaramazov

    DmitriKaramazov Senior Member

    Yes, quite often during the 1986 tour. I saw it in Costa Mesa CA.
     
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  22. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

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    Next year marks the 30th anniversary of the Hearts of Fire soundtrack. Maybe there will be a 5CD set consisting of 1985-1987 era with The Plugz, Letterman appearance, Tom Petty,these newfound tracks and more plus one DVD (or BluRay) of the movie ! :D
     
  23. OMG! That would be a nightmare! That said, a well chosen 2 cd set of highlights of the 1987 Temples In Flames tour could be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
     
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  24. DmitriKaramazov

    DmitriKaramazov Senior Member

    They could easily go 4 - 6 CDs for the Temple in Flames tour. That would make a fun "prequel" to the massive End All Be All series for the Never Ending Tour.
     
  25. LonesomeDayBlues

    LonesomeDayBlues Forum Resident

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    Listened to both of the sets while on a long flight and it was a very interesting listen. I felt I was in study mode but hope I will play these again soon and simply enjoy them. They seem like loose (and fun) recordings.
     
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