Bob Dylan - Bootleg Series Volume 15 (Travelin’ Thru 1967-1969 (1st November 2019) *

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  1. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Watch that interview again; Dylan looks like he needs an exorcism from Fr. Amorth.

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  2. Feat21

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    The king of "Levon Helm on drums beat the songs to death" loves '86. How ironic
     
  3. Richard--W

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    Snarky sniper, aren't you Feat21.
    You know what you can do with your attitude, don't you?

    I said tour '86 was the hottest ticket of the year, because it sold
    a lot of tickets and was reported as such in the trades.

    I didn't say I loved it.
     
  4. Mbd77

    Mbd77 Collect ‘Em All! Thread Starter

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    Interestingly, ‘The Bridge’ fanzine apparently just confirmed that a similar ‘home demo’ tape of unknown songs from 1977 has been found in the Tulsa archive. I don’t subscribe to The Bridge. Anyone have a scan of the relevant section?
     
  5. Richard--W

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    Anyone?
     
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  6. Dayfold

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    Sorry to do this, but:
    :drool:
     
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  7. paidinblood

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    That is not what the article said at all. Never any mention of a tape.
     
  8. paidinblood

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    I was in a whirlpool, now I'm in some better place
     
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  9. Mbd77

    Mbd77 Collect ‘Em All! Thread Starter

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    As I said, I don’t subscribe, and therefore obviously this came to me secondhand, so could somebody reprint the information please?
     
  10. Richard--W

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    Then what did the article say exactly?
     
  11. Beaneydave

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    Support The Bridge and subscribe!

    Peace and love✌
     
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  12. paidinblood

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    Ditto.
     
  13. Mbd77

    Mbd77 Collect ‘Em All! Thread Starter

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    I’ll take a guess and say that I’ve very likely ‘supported’ more Bob Dylan stuff than some people will ever manage in their entire lives.
    Is this really where we are that people won’t clarify an interesting bit of news from a fanzine? It’s not like this hasn’t been published.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  14. DeeThomaz

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    Agreed. It’s great to support labor of love fan resources like this and I wouldn’t agree with reproducing the article in its entirety (nor do I think that’s allowed under forum rules) but a quick summary, crediting the source, seems completely legitimate. Certainly every time ISIS gets a scoop, it’s soon shared with the wider fandom. That’s the nature of breaking news.
     
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  15. Mbd77

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    From a Facebook group:

    “It has been confirmed that a recording of the rumoured song 'I'm Cold' is in the Tulsa archive.

    * These are supposed to be about 10-12 songs from 1977 in the spirit of Blood On The Tracks, but with much darker and unnerving lyrics, dealing with the final breakdown of Dylan's relationship with his wife.”

    “...located it in the archive. Reported in The Bridge fanzine.”

    Also:

    “Tulsa archive :

    It is also reported that complete filmed versions of One too many mornings & Like a Rolling Stone from Paris 1966 exists.
    Along with lots of hotel footage, press conference material from Paris 1966.
    Also an unexpected find from the 1978 World Tour.
    And much more...

    Source: Anders Lindh.
    The Bridge. 64”

    Apparently there was no mention of a tape in “The Bridge”, but also apparently this cannot be clarified without subscribing to the magazine?

    Maybe it’s the fact that I said ‘songs’ and ‘tape’ in my message here where it might be ‘a song’ and an acetate or something...but come on, really? :rolleyes:

    Anyone want to be a grown up and clarify what was published for us non-subscribers or is this secret information that must remain amongst the few?
     
  16. DeeThomaz

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    This is huge... if accurate. Just a couple months ago at the Dylan conference the curator for Tulsa had specifically confirmed they did NOT have recordings of “I’m Cold” or the associated songs (though as I recall they have manuscripts— I’ll see if I can confirm that). Either The Bridge misunderstood these comments, or there has been an AMAZING discovery that could justify the Dylan team re-evaluating their plans for the next BS installment (of course it’s likely too late to change anything coming this year, but I could easily imagine plans being shuffled around for next year).

    This needs a follow up!
     
  17. adam_777

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    I read recently someone close to Dylan (i cant recall who unfortunately) describing Bob playing him these super dark divorce relared songs in that time frame that were extremely personal. The person said they werent recorded, but if those have turned up as recorded which that article seems to be suggesting that could be an absolutely incredible find. Im really loving what im hearing from this Tulsa archive!
     
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  18. DeeThomaz

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    Until we get confirmation, I’m taking this with a BIG grain of salt. My gut feeling is it’s a misunderstanding over Chaiken’s comments about the “I’m Cold” manuscripts (which themselves are a significant discovery) but I’d very much love to be wrong.
     
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  19. Mbd77

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    Better get that Bridge subscription in...

    :shh:
     
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  20. kwhisperer

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    From an Uncut piece..

    In 1977, while visiting Rolling Thunder tour-mates Steven Soles and T-Bone Burnett, he played a set of songs too frightening to ever be heard again: like Blood On The Tracks 2, with the love torn out. “They were all very, very, very tough, dark, dark, dark songs,” Soles told Howard Sounes. “None of them saw the light of day. They got discarded because I think they were too strong. They were the continuation of the Bob and Sara tale, on the angry side of that conflict.” One of these blackest of tracks, “I’m Cold”, scared Soles. “It was scathing and tough and venomous. A song that would bring a chill to your bones. That’s what it did to me. T-Bone and I, when he left, our mouths were just wide open. We couldn’t even believe what we’d heard.”
     
  21. mrjinks

    mrjinks Optimistically Challenged

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    Well, I’m brave enough to listen to it! I’ve never been “scared” by a song.*




    *with the possible exception of some solo Ringo Starr music.
    :)
     
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  22. Alphatheta

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    The article is an interview with Michael Chaiken in which he says that Terry Gans (who I believe designs the Bootleg Series books) "found a song fragment for the song I'm Cold" in the Tulsa archive. It doesn't specify whether it's tape or manuscript, but it reads like manuscript. Yes, pretty significant even so.
     
  23. DeeThomaz

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    Thank you for the clarification. Disappointing, but consistent with what we already knew. Still leaves a little wiggle room, but clearly no one’s should get their hopes too high.
     
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    redsock Writer, reader, grouch.

     
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  25. Mbd77

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    Thank you.
     
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