Bob Dylan – The Bootleg Series Vol.16: Springtime In New York (1980–1985) (Content & Sound Quality)

I believe that Julius & Ethel is pretty much the only Bob Dylan song where a studio recording of it circulates, and yet Bob's official website makes no reference to the song even existing. Are there any other examples?

Perhaps they feel the line "They were never proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" no longer holds up, given some of the subsequent developments...

Anyway, I'd be surprised if this makes it on to BLS16.

 

Nah. There has to be more than that. Loads of studio outtakes circulate that he’s never played live.

The first thing I thought of was “Goodbye Holly” from the Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid sessions. That one fits the criteria.

 

You're right with that one. Not much of a song, but certainly fits the criteria!

I thought that most songs (even if omitted from Lyrics:1962-2012) had been picked up by the website, but I guess not

 

of course it will be on BS16. it's a finished studio recording from the Infidels sessions.

 

I wasn't aware that every finished studio recording from those sessions would make BLS16.

Are you thinking it's going to be similar to More Blood More Tracks rather than a shorter more curated release?

 

Personally, I’d only give “Julius & Ethel” a 50/50 or so chance at inclusion . Even as recently as BS15, they skipped over the finished original “Running” for no obvious reason. Sometimes their decision-making on these matters can be a bit unpredictable.

 

i'm not saying it will and i doubt it will be as comprehensive as the BOTT box. i guess what i'm saying is that, unlike, say "Running," "Julius And Ethel" is a very well-known, fully finished studio outtake that wouldn't make sense to exclude. i feel like "Running" is a little different in that it's mostly an instrumental (if i recall) and wasn't particularly well known or bootlegged before it was released.

 

I agree it's more substantial than "Running". I just have a feeling it will be ignored as it's possibly a tad embarrassing as it seems from what's come out this century that they were definitely guilty (certainly Julius at least) - not that I'd support capital punishment.

Hopefully we won't have long before we see a track listing!

 

yeah, i feel like it may not be until August/September, but i really can't wait either!

 

This is fun album from Daniel Romano that tries to capture what that might sound like.....

DANIEL ROMANO'S OUTFIT DO (WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN) "INFIDELS" BY BOB DYLAN & THE PLUGZ | DANIEL ROMANO'S OUTFIT (bandcamp.com)

 

Either it’ll be a drop Beyoncé-style or nothing at all. I’m dying for the former but I can’t recall they did anything for his 70th nor his 60th. 20 years ago he was playing Dresden with some fans singing Happy Birthday and the show was just like any other during that tour. Those years of the NET are some of the greatest in my book.

 

This is truly excellent.
I’m disappointed that they left a verse out of Sweetheart Like You. I understand the “woman like you should be at home, that’s where you belong” line has some problems. However, it means they have to drop one of my favorite lines “How much abuse will you be able to take? There’s no way to tell by the first kiss.”

 

Let's hope something big drops on the 80th....probably that won't happen- tho the week he turned 60, wasn't he recording 'love and theft' ?

 

That could be but Love & Theft was released on Sept. 11 2001 at a time where we weren’t spoiled with the BS release cadence that we are familiar with since a few years. I don’t see them releasing a new album in the short term followed by BS 16 in Nov.
Not that I wouldn’t like it but seems rather unfeasible within 6 month time span. A low-budget drop like the 1966/1975 however... Bring on The Villager

 

I was at the Dresden show. Gorgeous outdoor venue on a warm spring night. We were hoping the show would be something special. First birthday show since Paris 66?

In the end, it was pretty flat. The next night in Regensburg was Much better.

 

I attended 5-6 gigs on that tour. The Cologne one stood out among those au attended. I still recall the anticipation of that birthday show and the disappointment that after it. He just couldn’t care less. Why should he? He’s Bob Dylan!

 

Random not fully related questions: Is an ISIS magazine subscription worth the money? Also, what’s the best place to find back issues if they’re sold out on the ISIS website?

 

ISIS is an excellent publication, still, with the estimable Derek Barker at the helm. A typical issue contains a range of pieces, some shorter some longer, mostly serious occasionally frivolous (in a good way). It is far from unusual to find articles in ISIS that far surpass what gets published in the mainstream media.

 

Thanks! Any suggestions on how I can track down a recent issue that’s now sold out?

 

In addition to the ISIS site itself, the UK record store Badlands has a page for the recent issues they currently have in stock:
Bob Dylan Isis Magazine

 

Thanks so much! I ordered several back issues that looked interesting.

 

You are probably on a no fly list now

 

I did once have a hold put on my credit card when attempting to order from the ISIS site. *sigh*

 

Could be worse. Imagine explaining to your wife what the credit card payment to "The Ugliest Girl In The World" was all about...

 

While we wait for the Bootleg Series 16 announcement...

As an example of what the archive holds, the center released a free download of the first known recording of "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right" from 1962, previously unreleased.

Bob Dylan Center in Tulsa Unveils Plans, Slots a 2022 Opening - Variety