Bob Dylan: THE BOOTLEG SERIES VOL. 17: "Fragments - Time Out of Mind Sessions" [1/27/23]*

i hope they keep the live tracks to a minimum.

 

Or separate the live tracks from the studio tracks - eg maybe make disc 5 a live disc?

 

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The song is "A Burger Most Fowl" about the time Bob thought he was getting a 100% beef burger, but was served a turkey burger.

Bob has long believed that eating birds is sinful.

Note:
You can put a rock'n'roller on a farm, but you cannot take away his rock'n'roll boots

 

That pic immediately made me think about the hard boiled egg bit from Highlands.

 

I guess they've ditched the complete sessions idea as, if there was ever an era that deserved it outside 65/6 and BOTT, it was TOOM. Shame.

 

Is it confirmed that it's a curated set vs. the complete tapes?

 

While there is no way I could afford a complete sessions box ala Big Blue it would be nice for those who can. The five or six disc condensed would do me fine, which is what I have for The Cutting Edge.

 

In my opinion, the problem with "complete sessions" with TOOM and a ton of his later projects is that the albums don't necessarily present self-contained live performances (like the 60s records did). At a certain point, and definitely by the 80s, Dylan was making records in the way that most people post-Beatles use studios -- laying down basic tracks and then building things, doing overdubs, splicing things together from different takes, using mixdowns as references for adding new elements or generating whole new performances, etc. This is why so much of Springtime in New York ends up being alternate mixes of the album versions, with maybe a different lead vocal or a stripped-down reference mix, instead of a wholly different performance. Yeah, Dylan will drastically re-write songs, change keys, scrap whole performances and start over, but any attempt at "complete sessions" from the later albums is bound to present confusion -- is a particular reference mixdown considered a new performance? what about every particular overdub or splice-together? Where does one draw the line? Of course I prefer things to be more complete than less complete, but can you imagine, say, three whole discs of alternate mixes of "Highlands" with maybe a different guitar in the mix each time? 'Cause that's what you're asking for when you want "comprehensive" with these albums.

Some might say I'm off the mark here, and that TOOM was much more "live in the studio" than I think, and sure, I'd be glad to be proven wrong. But Springtime in New York really reinforced to me how much Dylan was adept at using the tools of the studio, despite his reputation as anti-studio-process. I have no reason to believe that he would have insisted on self-contained live performances in his second project with Lanois. Searching for the right sound and feel, yes -- but then I'm sure they chipped away and edited and spliced and overdubbed and re-mixed just like all the other albums of the era. So again, my opinion is that the notion of "complete sessions" here just doesn't make as much sense as it did for the albums covered on Big Blue.

 

Nothing is confirmed, there’s no press release yet. And even still it’s not real til you have it on the shelf
But things are pointing to a curated set.

 

Or maybe it's a 6-cd set with 4 devoted to studio sessions and 2 to an entire show of the same era that's heavy on TOOM songs. I'd prefer all studio tracks given the choice.

 

5 of 6 CD is a lot for a « curated set » though. Big Blue was 17 Discs for 3 albums (and a unrelated bonus CD), MBMT was 6 CD for on album (but with some sessions lost forever), so I don’t think 5-6 CD indicate anything.

 

I just want the official announcement. Is it strictly time out of mind? Is it a mid nineties overview?
And this thing about a listening party for journalists confused me. I've never seen this happen without an announcement. Means something should be publicly known before too long.

 

"Curated" trends 90s box.

 

I’ve seen a supposed track list for a three disc version, 92-98, curated - demos, studio outtakes, live, and soundtrack stuff. Centered on TOOM but not exclusively. Most of it is 96-97.

 

92-98 suggests some content from Good As I Been To You, and World Gone Wrong. Maybe. But some if that was on BS vol 8.

 

and bromberg sessions

 

Is there enough 1992 Bromberg sesh for a complete unreleased album? And if so, please release it Bob!

 

You pretend to know a lot more than you actually know, when you take unconfirmed reports by a Swedish writer in a Swedish forum and pretend they’re the truth. I doubt you’re the source. Maybe the reports are truthful. We’ll see.

 

Focusing on whenever an announcement of whatever might occur is the same as watching the nightly talking heads guess whenever whomever might fall from grace..

That time, in both cases, is better spent on enjoying music and the stories it tells.

 

Yeah I saw that list too. It’s on the back of my copy of Tell Tale Signs.

 

For what it’s worth, many others in the press got the same message. Sounds like the listening event is the truth.

 

Hoping for this. We still don't have "You Belong To Me" without the Natural Born Killers dialogue over it.

 

Im not pretending anyhing, I have nothing to gain from lying in a forum. The listening event is taking place august 23 and it is the truth.

 

Where would Dylanology be without Scandinavia.

 

If You Belong To Me is on the collection, it will be odd to hear it without the VoiceOver at the end.