Bob Dylan 'The Complete Album Collection Vol. 1' remasters

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  1. mattdegu

    mattdegu Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Bob Dylan - The Complete Album Collection Vol.1 (47 disc set)
    http://www.bobdylan.com/us/news/bob-dylan-complete-album-collection-vol-1

    This new thread is about the albums proper (including Side Tracks), and specifically the ones remastered for this landmark collection:

    1. Self Portrait (1970) - newly remastered for this collection
    2. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973) - newly remastered for this collection
    3. Dylan (1973) - newly remastered for this collection
    4. Street Legal (1978) - newly remastered for this collection
    5. Saved (1980) - newly remastered for this collection
    6. Empire Burlesque (1985) - newly remastered for this collection
    7. Knocked Out Loaded (1986) - newly remastered for this collection
    8. Down in the Groove (1988) - newly remastered for this collection
    9. Under the Red Sky (1990) - newly remastered for this collection
    10. Good as I Been to You (1992) - newly remastered for this collection
    11. World Gone Wrong (1993) - newly remastered for this collection
    12. Hard Rain (1976) - newly remastered for this collection
    13. Bob Dylan at Budokan (1979) - newly remastered for this collection
    14. Real Live (1984) - newly remastered for this collection
    (copied from Amazon UK)

    The others are the currently-available albums and remasters Sony/Legacy has been selling since the early 2000's, though by some accounts Shot Of Love sounds different here.

    Many people are wondering whether or not to buy this, and in the UK the price has risen on Amazon to £151 GBP, where it was closer to £120 not so long ago. It can probably still be seen as a bargain due to what is contains: all his studio albums in a compact form (including the official live ones), an informative picture book and a 2-CD collection of non-studio tracks called Back Tracks.

    But is this set worth getting if you already have most or all of his albums?

    Hopefully people can assess the quality of the new remasters (such comparisons are likely to feature in the individual album threads too). Also useful would be opinion on when the new remasters are likely to replace their respective shop-sold individual CDs, and whether Sony/Legacy will release Back Tracks on CD too, and not just keep it to the limited-edition vinyl. The thread already made in anticipation of the box (http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/bob-dylan-complete-album-collection.326813/) is already up to Part 3, yet many comments are still about various quality issues with the first batch - problems with scratched/wrong CD's etc. Sony has clearly been on the case replacing various CDs, so that should be all cleared up at some point.
     
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  2. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so

    I have listened to nine of the remastered versions, and can honestly say, I really like the sound. I have NOT done direct comparisons to the earlier discs. My aural memory (which I believe is pretty good, I don't buy the talk about aural memory being brief, maybe for some) of the earlier versions are that in each case the new one sounds clearer without being thin or edgy.
     
  3. Lee

    Lee Forum Resident

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    Really like Budokan. Sound is great. Many disappointing albums at the time have more life with the long perspective.
     
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  4. carledwards

    carledwards Forum Resident

    I like the remastered sound for the discs in the box. Nice job.
     
  5. duggan

    duggan Forum Resident

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    I wonder whether the Street Legal remaster is of the original "Street Legal" or the remixed "Street-Legal".
     
  6. GowG

    GowG Forum Resident

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    Original mix
     
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  7. bobcat

    bobcat Forum Resident

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    Not very happy with the 'Hard Rain' remaster....it always sounded a bit rough and I discern no particular improvement
     
  8. Maddin61

    Maddin61 Forum Resident

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    My first listen had these results:

    1. Self Portrait (1970) improved sound ... but I prefer Another Self Portrait by far.
    2. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (1973) improved sound ... but I never got into Pat & Billy that much.
    3. Dylan (1973) improved sound but not improved music ;-)
    4. Street Legal (1978) I prefer the 1999 remix
    5. Saved (1980) significantly improved sound, like this one much more than the earlier releases. But it´s still not a classic.
    6. Empire Burlesque (1985) sounds better now but I always disliked the 80s sound of that album.
    7. Knocked Out Loaded (1986) improved but I will not listen to that one more than before
    8. Down in the Groove (1988) improved but I will not listen to that one more than before
    9. Under the Red Sky (1990) improved, but sound has always been good on that one IMO
    10. Good as I Been to You (1992) significantly improved, no hiss, sounds even better than my vinyl ... to me.
    11. World Gone Wrong (1993) significantly improved, no hiss, sounds even better than my vinyl ... to me.
    12. Hard Rain (1976) to me this sounds harsher and thinner than before ...
    I prefer the old edition
    , would love to compare to the MusicOnVinyl-remaster. One of my favourite Dylan-albums.
    13. Bob Dylan at Budokan (1979) significantly improved sound ... but Europe 1978 has been so much better that I will not become a lover of Budokan.
    14. Real Live (1984) improved ... but I have to admit that I am used to listen to Tangled Up In Blue alone from that release.

    There has been quite a lot of chatter about Shot of Love (1981) having been remastered.
    For me this one has always sounded great on vinyl and on CD.
    The new CD included in CAC (Complete Album Collection) is much louder, levels are higher.
    Is it any better? Let your ear be your guide ... ;-)
    I prefer the old CD ... and turn the volume up by myself.

    Written from first impressions.
     
  9. bobcat

    bobcat Forum Resident

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    So you agree about Hard Rain? no improvement at all?
     
  10. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so

    Hard Rain sounds improved to me. It's one of my least favorite Dylan albums though.
     
  11. Maddin61

    Maddin61 Forum Resident

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    For me it´s similar to the John Wesley Harding remaster, but not that significant.
    It´s nearly impossible for me to listen to JWH remastered. Too harsh, too thin.
    The original version is wonderful ...

    Let me start writing about Hard Rain by writing about a coffee shop here in town.
    I loved that shop, because the coffee has been the best in town ... it was not perfect there, the chairs were old, walls needed new color ... i thought so.
    When they had everything made new ... new coffee-machine, new colors, new chairs ... it was fine, but it wasn´t my shop any more.

    Same with Hard Rain.
    Hard Rain has always sounded a bit dirty to me and I love the sound of this album.
    Listen to Shelter From The Storm LOUD. Fantastic music.
    The new edition might be more precisely in some cases, more cleaned up in the corners :) ... but it is a different rain. ;-)
    I will stick to the old one.
    I am used to that one.
     
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  12. bobcat

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    Yes, I agree...Shelter From The Storm has always been the standout track on the album....but now it sounds very harsh and thin....a very disappointing remaster

    The boots from that part of the tour ('76) are much better than this, the only official record
     
  13. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa Play that fast thing one more time

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    Glad I have my white label promo LP of Hard Rain.
     
  14. Rickchick

    Rickchick Forum Resident

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    Me too, but I regret peeling off the white sticker for radio, it was blocking half of his face!
     
  15. ymenard

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    Hard Rain should have been remixed *and* remastered. You shouldn't have all those mixing problems with those high shrill sounds throughout the album. Completely unacceptable.
     
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  16. Tribute

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    I'd be interested in whether the Side Tracks cuts taken from Biograph are identical to the second edition of that set, or improved.

    And how George Jackson sounds compared to the original 45RPM
     
  17. Carserguev

    Carserguev Forum Resident

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    I think Shot Of Love sounds much different. For the better, IMHO. But I am notoriously unreliable, and it's strange that there seems to be no consensus on whether it is remastered or not...:confused:
     
  18. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so

    I too think Shot of Love sounds different, and better.
     
  19. mattdegu

    mattdegu Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I think that sometimes they only adjust the volume or EQ a bit, but that's not enough to be considered a proper remaster. Maybe sometimes that's all you need to do to improve a cd? It's also not on their list of course.
     
  20. Maddin61

    Maddin61 Forum Resident

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    To me Shot Of Live sounds *much* louder and compressed.
    They might have added some EQ.
    Anyone looked at the DynamicRange? So far none of the new remasters are listed at the data base.
     
  21. rgomes23

    rgomes23 New Member

    Hi!

    Is there a way to get a summarized version as to what flaws there were on the "Bob Dylan - The Complete Album Collection Vol.1" Box Set and the "Another Self Portrait" (Deluxe Edition)?

    Thanks!



     
  22. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa Play that fast thing one more time

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    Pretty sure it was just Hard Rain and the remastered 4th disc in the deluxe BS 10
     
  23. mattdegu

    mattdegu Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I've re-asked this question on the the other Complete Collection thread, in this post: Bob Dylan: Complete Album Collection (pt3).

    I think it's a bit early for a full summary in this thread (ie it's still ongoing), and would probably lead to duplicate discussion if gotten into here.
     
  24. COBeatles

    COBeatles Member

    Anyone else missing Times They Are A Changing??? Just received the set brand new and sealed for Christmas and this entire disc and sleeve is missing!! Any email address that can help with this? VERY bizarre
     
  25. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa Play that fast thing one more time

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    Read the first post.
     
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