Bob Dylan: "Trouble No More 1979 - 1981" - The Bootleg Series Vol. 13

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  1. HominyRhodes

    HominyRhodes Forum Resident

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    See the previous five pages for commentary.
     
  2. streetlegal

    streetlegal Forum Resident

    Shot of Love seems under-represented somewhat in the out-takes count: Heart of Mine, Property, Trouble, Angelina, Lenny Bruce all missing in action. Presumably, not much there to add.
     
  3. racingman11

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    On Amazon France the Toronto gig is on discs 5 & 6.
     
  4. Bob Dylan - When You Gonna Wake Up (Oslo, Norway - July 9, 1981) [Audio]

     
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  5. Tom Schreck

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    It is definitely conspicuous how much commonly-held material is not included. Seems like this time they're trying to tell a particular story, rather than acting as a historical archive. [At least for this volume. I think they've shown that the Bootleg Series is a malleable institution, and who knows what the future holds.] (and I am not necessarily criticizing this approach; I love it all. It's just worth noting.)
     
  6. Waymore Lonesome

    Waymore Lonesome Forum Resident

    I wonder what the difference between a soundcheck and a rehearsal is.
     
  7. S1m0ne

    S1m0ne Forum Resident

    On a negative note, I'm scared we will never see the missing outtakes officially released...
     
  8. racingman11

    racingman11 Forum Resident

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    OK, here is the tracklist from Amazon France + Info on live locations & guesses according to sessions info available :

    Disc 1
    1 Slow Train (Live Nov. 16, 1979) San Francisco
    2 Gotta Serve Somebody (Live Nov. 15, 1979) San Francisco
    3 I Believe In You (Live May 16, 1980) Pittsburgh
    4 When You Gonna Wake Up? (Live July 9, 1981) Drammen (Norway)
    5 When He Returns (Live Dec. 5, 1979) Albuquerque
    6 Man Gave Names to All the Animals (Live Jan. 16, 1980) Portland
    7 Precious Angel (Live Nov. 16, 1979) San Francisco
    8 Covenant Woman (Live Nov. 20, 1979) Santa Monica
    9 Gonna Change My Way of Thinking (Live Jan. 31, 1980) Memphis
    10 Do Right to Me Baby (Do Unto Others) (Live Jan. 28, 1980) Kansas City
    11 Solid Rock (Live Nov. 27, 1979) San Diego
    12 What Can I Do for You? (Live Nov. 27, 1979) San Diego
    13 Saved (Live Jan. 12, 1980) Portland
    14 In the Garden (Live Jan. 27, 1980) Kansas City
    Disc 2
    1 Slow Train (Live June 29, 1981) London
    2 Ain't Gonna Go to Hell for Anybody (Live Apr. 24, 1980) Montreal NEW SONG
    3 Gotta Serve Somebody (Live June 27, 1981) London (England)
    4 Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One (Live Nov. 16, 1979) San Francisco NEW SONG #1
    5 Saving Grace (Live Nov. 6, 1979) San Francisco NEW SONG
    6 Blessed Is the Name (Live Nov. 20, 1979) Santa Monica NEW SONG
    7 Solid Rock (Live Oct. 23, 1981) Philadelphia
    8 Are You Ready? (Live Apr. 30, 1980) Buffalo
    9 Pressing On (Live Nov. 6, 1979) San Francisco
    10 Shot of Love (Live July 25, 1981) Avignon (France)
    11 Dead Man, Dead Man (Live June 21, 1981) Toulouse (France)
    12 Watered-Down Love (Live June 12, 1981) Clarckston
    13 In the Summertime (Live Oct. 21, 1981) Boston
    14 The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar (Live Nov. 13, 1980) San Francisco
    15 Caribbean Wind (Live Nov. 12, 1980) San Francisco
    16 Every Grain of Sand (Live Nov. 21, 1981) Lakeland
    Disc 3
    1 Slow Train (Soundcheck)
    2 Do Right to Me Baby (Do Unto Others) (Soundcheck)
    3 Help Me Understand (Soundcheck) NEW SONG
    4 Gonna Change My Way of Thinking (Rehearsal with horns)
    5 Gotta Serve Somebody (Take 1)
    6 When He Returns (Take 2)
    7 Ain't No Man Righteous, No Not One (Take 6) NEW SONG #2
    8 Trouble In Mind (Take 1) Single - Different Take than the single one which was Take 7
    9 Ye Shall Be Changed (Outtake) Same as Bootleg Series 1-3 ?
    10 Covenant Woman (Take 3)
    11 Stand by Faith (Rehearsal) NEW SONG
    12 I Will Love Him (Live Apr. 19, 1980) Toronto (Canada) NEW SONG
    13 Jesus Is the One (Live July 17, 1981) Loreley (Germany) NEW SONG
    14 City of Gold (Live Nov. 22, 1980) San Francisco NEW SONG
    15 Thief on the Cross (Live Nov. 10, 1981) New Orleans NEW SONG
    16 Pressing On (Take 1)
    Disc 4
    1 Slow Train (Rehearsal with horns)
    2 Gotta Serve Somebody (Rehearsal with horns)
    3 Making a Liar Out of Me (Rehearsal) NEW SONG
    4 Yonder Comes Sin (Rehearsal) NEW SONG
    5 Radio Spot for January 1980, Portland, OR show
    6 Cover Down, Pray Through (Live May 1, 1980) NEW SONG #1
    7 Rise Again (Rehearsal) NEW SONG
    8 Ain't Gonna Go to Hell for Anybody (Live Dec. 2, 1980) NEW SONG #3
    9 The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar (Take 2)
    10 Caribbean Wind (Rehearsal with pedal steel) Not the one already circulating ?
    11 You Changed My Life (Take 4) Different Take than the single one which was Take 11
    12 Shot of Love (Outtake)
    13 Watered-Down Love (Outtake)
    14 Dead Man, Dead Man (Outtake)
    15 Every Grain of Sand (Rehearsal)
    Disc 5
    1 Gotta Serve Somebody (Live in Toronto)
    2 I Believe in You (Live in Toronto)
    3 Covenant Woman (Live in Toronto)
    4 When You Gonna Wake Up? (Live in Toronto)
    5 When He Returns (Live in Toronto)
    6 Ain't Gonna Go to Hell for Anybody (Live in Toronto) NEW SONG #4
    7 Cover Down, Pray Through (Live in Toronto) NEW SONG #2
    8 Man Gave Names to All the Animals (Live in Toronto)
    9 Precious Angel (Live in Toronto)
    Disc 6
    1 Slow Train (Live in Toronto)
    2 Do Right to Me Baby (Do Unto Others) (Live in Toronto)
    3 Solid Rock (Live in Toronto)
    4 Saving Grace (Live in Toronto)
    5 What Can I Do for You? (Live in Toronto)
    6 In the Garden (Live in Toronto)
    7 Band Introductions (Live in Toronto)
    8 Are You Ready? (Live in Toronto)
    9 Pressing On (Live in Toronto)
    Disc 7
    1 Gotta Serve Somebody (Live in London)
    2 I Believe in You (Live in London)
    3 Like a Rolling Stone (Live in London)
    4 Man Gave Names to All the Animals (Live in London)
    5 Maggie's Farm (Live in London)
    6 I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) (Live in London)
    7 Dead Man, Dead Man (Live in London)
    8 Girl from the North Country (Live in London)
    9 Ballad of a Thin Man (Live in London)
    Disc 8
    1 Slow Train (Live in London)
    2 Let's Begin (Live in London) NEW SONG
    3 Lenny Bruce (Live in London)
    4 Mr. Tambourine Man (Live in London)
    5 Solid Rock (Live in London)
    6 Just Like a Woman (Live in London)
    7 Watered-Down Love (Live in London)
    8 Forever Young (Live in London)
    9 When You Gonna Wake Up? (Live in London)
    10 In the Garden (Live in London)
    11 Band Introductions (Live in London)
    12 Blowin' in the Wind (Live in London)
    13 It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (Live in London)
    14 Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Live in London)


    Some comments :
    -We have 15 new songs... The spanish news from last week was legit.
    -Quite a shame they didn't use the original single take for Trouble In Mind (even if available elsewhere on CD on a german compilation)
    -No Don't Ever Take Yourself Away either (from the Hawai Five-O soundtrack) -> As for Trouble In Mind, I'm glad that I don't have to throw away CDs I purchased for one track, and I get that the Bootleg Series are not a Rare Tracks compilation (even if there were soundtrack songs in Tell Tale Signs) but for most it is a missed opportunity to get those rare tracks.
    -Avignon is here (for one track, but still)
    -Disappointed of not having the Carribean Wind take I always loved (I was so eager to have a good quality version of it)
    -Great great GREAT work nonetheless
     
  9. The Killer

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    I kinda like the cover, it's font crazy, it's got a K-Tel look about it, it matches Bob's jacket, hey it's the late 70s early 80s, what's taste and design got to do with anything?!
     
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  10. Dave Gilmour's Cat

    Dave Gilmour's Cat Forum Resident

    I know there will be much quibbling about what takes got included/excluded, but I am absolutely delighed to see all this material unleashed.

    It's the best time ever to be a Dylan fan.
    :wave::wiggle::wave::wiggle::wave:
     
  11. joe1320

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    is there any links to order the box set yet
     
  12. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect The prose and the passion

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    I went to two of the Earls Court shows. It was the first time I saw Dylan perform. I was a big fan, but even so it was, for me, a sublime experience. A couple of things I remember. One is that Dylan seemed shaken by the unpopularity of his Gospel tours. Now he was back to playing his old songs alongside the newer material. At the end, he said:

    "I hope that we played something that you came to hear. If not, we're gonna be here tomorrow night, and the next night and the night after that. You're bound to hear something that you know one of the nights."​

    Well, I went on Saturday 27 June, and afterwards called my sister and said, "you have to come to one of these concerts, Dylan is staggeringly good". So we went on one of the other nights, unfortunately I am not sure which. But I remember thinking it was good but not the equal of the previous one; the setlist was different of course. It would be interesting to listen to all the tapes and see if I still feel there is a lot of variation in the performances.

    Tim
     
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  13. bobcat

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  14. racingman11

    racingman11 Forum Resident

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    The Documentary being called Trouble No More, I have little doubt it will be the extra-DVD.
     
  15. Jean Bermans

    Jean Bermans Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I'm blind, or is there actually no version of Heart of Mine included here? Also, here is hoping that the rumored DVD be a Heavy Metal Parking Lot type thing. Born-Again-Jebus-Freaks battling it out with Fans of earlier eras...
     
  16. subtr

    subtr Forum Resident

    Great news to wake up to! That official youtube clip sounds excellent. I wish we could get an extended version which has all of the shows in their complete form that this set draws from, but that's something to look forward to in 2029-2031!
     
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  17. keef285

    keef285 Forum Resident

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    From my contact.....box set 8cd +dvd ( hour long documentary ) UK Price £130 - £140
     
  18. racingman11

    racingman11 Forum Resident

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    Expensive but fair. Waiting for Euros price, but I expect it to be around 175€.

    175€ for a 9 CD deluxe boxset seems about right. Glad to know that Sony finally gave up the outrageous pricing strategy of the Big Blue Box.
     
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  19. Wait.....so there's no Toronto concert film after all, just audio?!!! So we still need to watch the grainy, fuzzy version on YouTube!
     
  20. That's by far the worst cover I've ever seen. It beats even the cheesiest low budget Italian bootleg LP's from the 1980's. Utterly horrendous and most definitely the product of a jokerman.
     
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  21. Willowman

    Willowman Senior Member

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    That seems like an awful lot for a relatively obscure and unloved period of Bob's career.

    My guess is that they either won't make many of them, or we'll see a stack remaindered off in 9 months.
     
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  22. I agree. For less than that we got a 36 CD box of Live 1966 - prime, indisputably top drawer Dylan too!
     
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  23. racingman11

    racingman11 Forum Resident

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    Yes but we had 18 CD of repetitive studio sessions for 600$ so I guess it's not that bad. 8 CD of carefully selected content + 1 DVD of a specially designed documentary + booklet & photos this price is not surprising.
     
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  24. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Yes, it's a composite drawn from April 18th, 19th, & 20th (17th must not have been recorded). You'll be glad to know "Solid Rock" is indeed from the 20th. I believe it includes every song played on those dates, except (weirdly) "Saved." Also, "I Will Love Him" from Toronto is on disc 3 instead one of the Toronto discs!
     
  25. Sordel

    Sordel Forum Resident

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    I think that these are both misconceptions, but there was inevitably a come-down off the high of the last three releases. The complete Basement Tapes was a Dylan Holy Grail; moreover, fans didn't even dare dream that they would one day have a complete set of 1966 concerts or that a single box might cover all the 65-66 studio material. Speaking as an avowed Dylan novice it's difficult to imagine what boxed set with massive commercial appeal might still be left to release, other than maybe the Blood On The Tracks sessions.

    That said, if you're a Dylan fan (even a casual one) then this new set is massively desirable. There aren't going to be any real surprises for Columbia here: they will expect respectable sales and get them. Any hesitation in the thread will be of the "yes I'm excited, yes I'm buying it, let's just take a moment to scrutinise these contents shall we?" sort.
     

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