Bond 25, 2019

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by shokhead, Nov 27, 2017.

  1. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    No, Squealy, you are mistaken.
    The limitations you cite are actually virtues.
    No one is suggesting an actor stand in front of the camera
    and read the book aloud.
    This is why they call it "adaptation."
     
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  2. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

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  3. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    You can say that again. They're a perfect marriage to the producers
    but the mentality of their writing is like cement.

    I'd like to see this game. Can it still be set up and will it function?
     
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  4. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Some of the recasting done in 2006 hasn't served the series well. M for example.
    Changing M to a female was a good idea and the right idea but they played her
    character wrong. They blew it. Changing M again to a shirt-sleeve blue-collar
    man of action in the office doesn't work either. I don't think we need to go into
    the lives of the office help; they're meant to be a contrast, not more of the same.
    They're there to give 007 a grounding, a home to return to. They should never
    be the story itself.

    If they reboot for the next Bond film I would hope they put the chaotic office
    back in order. M should be a contrast to 007. Keep Rory Kinnear as Bill Tanner.
    Bring back Miss Moneypenny as Miss Monepenny not as Eve with the sniper
    rifle. Restart the storyline; no more Blofeld, none of the circumstances and
    events of the Daniel Clueless era to weigh down the new films with baggage.

    Plenty of period films are action films just as exciting as contemporary films.
    Barbara Broccoli has stated they'll never do a period film. So she may share
    the misconception that period films have no action. Of course period films
    have action. All the time.
     
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  5. CraigBic

    CraigBic Forum Resident

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    You know they cast Judi Dench as M for Goldeneye right? 1995 not 2006.
     
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  6. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Yes, I know that, but her character did not become an femme Nazi
    until Casino Royale. She is the true villain of the Bond franchise.
     
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  7. muzzer

    muzzer Forum Resident

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    Erm, yeah, right.
     
  8. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    Copies of "Everything or nothing" on Playstation 2 can be found used online, for a few dollars.

    All you need is a copy of the game and of course a working Playstation 2 console. If you don't have a CRT TV anymore, there are component cables for the PS2..

    A review and several screenshots are available here
     
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  9. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Thanks for that.

    I see a lot of Bond videogames available cheap. I'm interested.
    The consoles can be had for about $70. There's a Playstation 4
    now, I wonder if that will play the Playstation 2.
    What's the route to go?
     
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  10. Bluesman Mark

    Bluesman Mark But I'm innocent! Swan stole my music & framed me!

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    The PS4 is not backwards compatible with PS3, PS2, or PS1 titles. Only the PS2 is backwards compatible with PS1 titles. One of the PS3's is backwards compatible with some PS1 titles, but not all.

    I have a PS3 & kept my PS2 as well because of that.
     
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  11. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    These component cables to adapt the game into a hi-def
    screen -- is there quality loss? image or audio loss? I can
    put a CRT back in the house but it's a pain and there's
    no room for it.
     
  12. Squealy

    Squealy Forum Hall Of Fame

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    No, I’m not suggesting they read the book out loud. But I assume that if people want to see filmed versions of the books, they want the books adapted faithfully. And I just don’t think the stories as found in the books would cut it for contemporary audiences, at least not as big budget movies.

    The early Bond movies were exaggerated adaptations of the books, and they begat forty years of Bond movies that are over the top, large scale adventures, to greater or lesser degrees. And that’s what people are used to. Whether you’d personally like it better or not, straight adaptations of Ian Fleming wouldn’t be as successful.
     
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  13. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I never said I wanted straight adaptations.
    I want smarter adaptations, but not straight adaptations.
    The operative word here being "adaptations" or does that word only
    have meaning you say it?
    Some of the early films improved on the novels in interesting ways.
    Dr. No especially.

    Audiences today expect films to be theme-park thrill-rides. This is
    creates problems for dramatists because it is not what their art
    and craft is about. Action is obviously necessary but no, the Bond
    films don't have to be theme-park thrill rides every minute.
     
  14. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    Also, the 20GB, 60GB NTSC "launch" PS3 models were able to play PS2 games via hardware-based compatibility. The80GB NTSC PS3 was able to play PS2 games, but with software based compatibility.



    Since the audio of most consumer TVs is weak, you can hook the RGB video cables to your TV, and can use the digital optical output of the PS2 to feed your A/V surround receiver. "Everything or nothing" is THX - Dolby Surround Pro Logic II encoded, so no quality loss. If you just want stereo, it sounds great anyway. Hook the audio cables to your amp, or the digital if your stereo amp has a digital input .

    As for the image, remember to set the correct video out

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    There are component to HDMI converters if your TV has not component, but this is similar to what I see with component and a 720p screen.

     
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  15. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Revising my response.
    I never said I wanted straight adaptations.
    I want straight-forward storytelling free of political agendas.
    Being straight-forward doesn't mean being straight or literal.
    I want smarter adaptations, but not straight adaptations.

    The operative word here being "adaptations" or does that word only
    have meaning when you say it?
    Being faithful doesn't mean a lack of action.
    Some of the early films improved on the novels in interesting ways.
    Dr. No especially.

    Audiences today expect films to be theme-park thrill-rides. This
    creates problems for dramatists because it is not what their art
    and craft is about. Action is obviously necessary but no, the Bond
    films don't have to be theme-park thrill-rides every minute.
     
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  16. Squealy

    Squealy Forum Hall Of Fame

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    I was responding to posts like:

    and
    I assume that what they are asking for is movies that closely follow the books.
     
  17. shokhead

    shokhead Head shok and you still don't what it is. HA! Thread Starter

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    Audiences today expect to be entertained for about 2 hours.
     
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  18. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    They always did.
    Except that Daniel Clueless apologists expect Bond's M.other to follow him
    around the globe and scold him for two hours. Lecture him on how to be a
    better man and kinder gentler spy. That's their idea of being entertained.
    If James Bond put on her dress they'd be fine with that, too.

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  19. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

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    OK...................., yeah. Right
     
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  20. muzzer

    muzzer Forum Resident

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    What is it about Bond as a cultural thing that elicits such intemperate opinions?
     
  21. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    I’m going to DC a break for awhile after his brilliant performance in Knifes Out.
     
  22. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    This.
     
  23. Holerbot6000

    Holerbot6000 Forum Resident

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    I thought the trailer was kind of Meh, which is a bad sign for a Bond film. The one motorcycle stunt made me go Woah! but that was about it. I know you shouldn't rush to judgement but if the whole point of the trailer was to whet my appetite, well it didn't....
     
  24. NickCarraway

    NickCarraway Forum Resident

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    But these days we just assume stunt shots like that are all CGI or green screen or some other tech wizardry. Even in a Bond film where the assumption is that they try to do as much as possible in-camera.
     
  25. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Cliche ridden, generic..deja vu.
    Bond should be at least more glamorous sophisticated than your general run Bourne wannabes.
     

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