Bruce Springsteen -The Candid Discussion

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  1. Dr. Zoom

    Dr. Zoom Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Many say he made some of the best records anywhere from 73 to 87. Some say since then, not so much.
    What do you think happened? Your honest opinion...positive, negative and otherwise...on this and all things Springsteen is welcome here.
     
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  2. Jimbino

    Jimbino Goad Kicker, Music Lover

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    Lost his youthful fire. Maybe due to marriage, divorce, kids.
     
  3. Dr. Zoom

    Dr. Zoom Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I know the feeling..
     
  4. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH Forums.

    It can be difficult to sustain innovation and creativity over decades to the same level as when the artist is young and fresh. What was initially seen as a breath of fresh air slowly becomes the artist's style, and the exciting novelty wears off to become just another album in the artist's style.

    To give Bruce some credit, he has tried to do some different stuff, like the Pete Seeger album.
     
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  5. Dr. Zoom

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    Yes, I personally loved the Seeger Sessions album and tour. Very fresh and organic (even though it's not his music).
     
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  6. detroit muscle

    detroit muscle Forum Resident

    He's not 25 years old anymore and neither are we.
     
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  7. telecode101

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    I dont believe its true that Springsteen has not made great records since 87.

    Human Touch, Lucky Town, Ghost of Tom Joad, The Rising, Wrecking Balls are all great Springsteen records. (As least of the ones I have heard. If you are a Springsteen fan, they are great. If you are not -- they may or may not connect with you -- but in the grand realm of things, it doesnt matter because Springsteen and aritsts like him do not really ride trends and waves. He's in the mold of Bob Dylan or Pete Seger .. they make the music they make for the fans they have and pickup along the way.)

    But I think over all, Springsteen has had a much better track record of consistently releasing very very good and relevant records than artists such as the Rolling Stones over the recent years.
     
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  8. nfmboss666

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    I think “The Rising” And “Magic” specifically are outstanding Records in Bruce’s career. I don’t think he has had the consistency that he did from Greetings - Born in The USA but i can’t think of many artists that have had that long of a run. I am a massive Bruce fan and can find stuff that i love on all of his records but i do think the 2 Records i mentioned above could be mentioned along with his “glory days” (pun intended) albums.
     
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  9. Dr. Zoom

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    I agree. The Rising and Magic are the two best post 99.
    His last three have been clunkers IMO, hopefully the next one will be a return to form. If he ever gets off Broadway...
     
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  10. Dr. Zoom

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    True. I love the stones, but couldn't quote you a Rolling Stones song title since 1990.
     
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  11. Etienne Hanratty

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    Although I’d been aware of him since BITUSA, I didn’t actively investigate him till The Rising and I’ve worked backwards and forwards ever since I don’t really see a dip in quality over the course of his career. If anything, the songwriting’s become more adventurous and the lyrics more universal.
     
  12. budwhite

    budwhite Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.

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    The ghost of Tom Joad is pretty great. The Rising has a bunch of good songs, but also to many clunkers. Don't like the production either.
    Magic is my favorite since Tom Joad. Bad sounding and all.

    But I don't listen to much studio when it's comes to Springsteen. He's a live act. Same with the Grateful Dead for me
     
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  13. Dr. Zoom

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    "The Wall" is a good example of universal songwriting, and one his best post 99 efforts.
     
  14. Dr. Zoom

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    Yeah, I always find myself gravitating towards the live stuff. And I agree that the Rising is too long. He could have cut 2-3 songs off that and made it more focused, as Magic was. Production is crummy too. Way too much compression.
     
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  15. detroit muscle

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    He has an album recorded and ready to be released. The River tour delayed it and now the Broadway show has meant no time to promote a new record. Traditional Bruce would scrap this record and start a new one but who knows.
     
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  16. Dr. Zoom

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    Any read on the details? Band? Solo?
     
  17. graveyardboots

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    Human Touch was the first truly disappointing Springsteen album. It was glossy, generic, overlong and the best track on the album, the title cut, sits in the shadow of the strongest compositions from the previous album, Tunnel of Love. Lucky Town was a bit better in that it was a more cohesive effort but it very much sounded like the glorified demo that it was with some of the best tracks (Better Days, Living Proof, Souls of the Departed) lessened by a plodding sameness. The Ghost of Tom Joad is the best sounding and perhaps the most interesting of his post E Street solo albums and it's the one I seem to return to the most.

    The Rising is the first of Springsteen's "new sound" albums: congested, bloated and mastered too loud. It's also three to five tracks too long. Sometimes less is more. Magic is easily my favorite of his reunion albums, at least in terms of songwriting and performance - not so much in terms of production or dynamics. I agree with the earlier poster who noted Springsteen's three most recent efforts are a bit underwhelming.

    That said, there are genuinely great tracks scattered throughout his post Tunnel of Love output with some songs standing alongside his best from the classic era: the live version of American Skin, Nothing Man, Paradise, My City of Ruins, Leah, Black Cowboys, Long Walk Home, Devil's Arcade, Girls in Their Summer Clothes, The Last Carnival, We Are Alive, and The Wall.
     
  18. Olompali

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    Purpose.
    Springsteen basically sacrificed everything for the belief that rock 'n roll music would save him, With BitUSA crushing the world he proved right. No Backstreets for him. He achieved his artistic goal. His vision came true.
    After that, he became a regular singer songwriter and mega entertaining performer.
    The three brides on the back cover of The River represents lost loves on his way to success.
     
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  19. Dr. Zoom

    Dr. Zoom Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Agree with pretty much everything you say. I'd add land of hope n dreams to the list.
     
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  20. Dr. Zoom

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    Whoa that's deep!
     
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  21. adm62

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    There's a general Springsteen discussion thread. Is one not allowed to be candid in that one?
     
  22. Dr. Zoom

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    "No comment"
     
  23. Efus

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    Solo.
    Said to be influenced by Glen Campbell and his 60s sound, Galveston, Witchita Lineman, etc, country flavored with strings kind of things.
     
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  24. Dr. Zoom

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    Thanks. Uh boy. Well, I guess we'll have to just wait and see.
     
  25. detroit muscle

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    solo but not Joad/Nebraska. He telephoned E Street radio in December 2015 and mentioned it. This was when The River tour was only going to be a month long and not the year long trek it became
     
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