Burning SACD iso's to DVD-R's - how is that even possible?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by C6H12O6, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. TarnishedEars

    TarnishedEars Forum Resident

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    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that SACD ISOs would only play as SACD-Rs, not as ISO files on USB drive on the earlier firmwares.
     
  2. The ISO playback off a USB drive was used for movies and such, not SACDs.
     
  3. Sevoflurane

    Sevoflurane Forum Resident

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    Never tried it, but as my machine has up to date firmware it is unlikely to work. I used my machine to rip my SACDs as ISOs, and then used ISO2DSD to extract DSF files. The DSF files play back off a USB drive, and are also played by Foobar2000 and my Sony DAP.
     
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  4. The Pinhead

    The Pinhead SLEAZY SOUTHAMERICAN CAVEMAN

    Then I'd only burn to DVD-R with IMGBurn and play it ?
     
  5. The Pinhead

    The Pinhead SLEAZY SOUTHAMERICAN CAVEMAN

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  6. TarnishedEars

    TarnishedEars Forum Resident

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    Its been quite a while since I played around with this. But as I recall, that is how it is done, if you are running firmware which is old enough.

    Oppo removed this feature fairly early in the 103 and 105's lives as I recall. So depending upon how early of a 103 you have, this still might not work for you. They also removed this feature from the 93 and the 95 at the same time (which hadn't been out of production for more than about a year or two at that point in time).
     
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  7. The Pinhead

    The Pinhead SLEAZY SOUTHAMERICAN CAVEMAN

    Turns out it doesn't work. The firmw. that did this was issued in 2013. Mine was manufactured in 2014, with that firm factory-installed. The reggae comp I'd downloaded was gonna be my first taste of a SH mastering. No biggie though. I could have extracted the songs to flac, but it would have involved obtaining software I don't have, and I really couldnt be arsed to do so.
     
  8. Kal Rubinson

    Kal Rubinson Forum Resident

    It is playable by JRiver or foobar.
     
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  9. jeffmackwood

    jeffmackwood Forum Resident

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    If you have the iso file, why not simply convert to individual DSF files using either SACDExtract or ISO2DSD (both freeware)? Put them on a stick and play them. Put them on a server and stream them.
     
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  10. Kal Rubinson

    Kal Rubinson Forum Resident

    Because it is a lot of work and there's no reason to do it if you do not have to. I undertook the work when Roon stated that they would not (ever) support ISO playback.
     
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  11. MrEWhite

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    How do you play the raw ISO in Jriver? I can only play dsf files in it.
     
  12. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    Of course, but in the context of this tread, DVD-Rs and common SACD players it's no-go.

    But I'd like to find an older player that will play burned SACD ISOs from DVD-Rs just so I can see it happen. But I found that those older players are often missing other features I'm not giving up right now. And a player yet that will play ISOs from a USB drive would be fun. But no not happening. Computer media players are the future and the way to go from here on out.

    PS I never got JRiver v23 to play my SACD ISO file. Last time I tried with the UK issue of Tubular Bells with quad mix, it said "file not supported."
     
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  13. Kal Rubinson

    Kal Rubinson Forum Resident

    If I select an SACD ISO, JRiver automatically displays it as individual tracks and labels them as File Type:SACD. Just click and play. Have you tried it?
     
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  14. Kal Rubinson

    Kal Rubinson Forum Resident

    Granted.

    Not tomorrow but today.

    ?? Must be something in the setup. Since I converted all my ISOs to DSF, I have not done this but, while typing this response, I pulled out a backup USB drive of ISOs. Dragged a couple into JRiver's Playing-Now window and played a few tracks, stereo and multichannel, without a problem.
     
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  15. jeffmackwood

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    Sorry Kal. Was not directing my comment at you. Rather it was at the idea of finding some way of burning them to a disk and then playing said disk. Which is surely a lot of work in comparison to my suggestion. (Plus more costly: the disc "coasters" that would inevitably ensue have a real cost. Unless one had to purchase a stick or server, my suggestion has essentially zero incremental cost. I suppose there's a cost in time to download and install the suggested freeware, and to overcome the initial learning curve, but once done, it's as smooth and effortless as any other routine use of a computer (again, this comment being directed to whoever might think that burning discs is the way to go.)

    Jeff
     
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  16. Kiko1974

    Kiko1974 Forum Resident

    A friend of mine has a Chinese media center/player or whatever you wanna call it that seems to play all kinds of ISO's one throughs at it. I don't remember the name or brand of the device, it's a player with I think 2 HDMI outs and one can install (must actually) an HDD/SSD inside. In addition to that it has several USB ports and Wi Fi. It states it plays DSD files. My friend an I tried several kinds of ISO's, BD's, 3D BD's, UHD BD's (it's slow with these, this may be sorted out on a future firmware update, he got a couple of them since he got the player) and SACD ISO's too, it's the first player I've even seen that's able to do that.
    I think he payed something like 500/600 Euros plus import fees for it. My friend is very happy with it, it's built like a tank and he says it's very reliable.
    All in all, I would buy such a device from an unkown brand and that's coming from a person who uses a Topping D50 as a main D/A converter. I dislike taking more than 15 seconds surfing through menus to play the music I want to play and with my current combination I get what I need even if I have to use several devices. My present player comprises of a Sony UBP X-800 UHD BD/SACD player plus a Topping D50 D/A converter. I have all my SACD's ripped, their files extracted and converted to DSD over PCM files (the word "converted" is not accurate as nothing is being converted, the process is just a change of file container). I only whish the Sony X-800 had gapless music file playing but I can live with that. Right now I'm playing Analogue Productions The Planets (Mehta/Los Angeles Philarmonic on Decca) ripped SACD and God this sounds outstanding for so little money.
     
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  17. MrEWhite

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    Ah, you’re right. I was thinking of another software player.
     
  18. blues 66

    blues 66 Active Member

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    Good morning everyone, Forgive my English! 'Even I, I'm looking for some good BDP player (used ) that reads , the aforementioned ISO SACD -R files ... but '
    1 -here in Italy you can hardly find them, see the prices , in Germany, Austria, and england 'you find it more easily, but damn it costs shipping !)
    2- it reads that, for readers it takes an old firmware . . .
    3- the unknown Laser obsolete ( ) in short too sb attimento .
    'I ... I've found another way :)cool:)'
    1 a classic ROM DVD player, from PC
    1 PC Notebook , or Desktop :)righton:) I use a mini iPC' with "Jriver "installed, or "Hq Player "or other player.
    that reads ISO , and dSF files . .'Well ()
    '4 I connect my little dSD converter Fiio markII, part PC with USB ?output headphones , with d-sided Y ( RCA ) to the amplifier 2 channels and voila, your dsf /dff tracks -- are played, but the thing that stunned me , is that the green light of the DSD on the converter is turned on !
    'so listening in DSD .
    5 to the most suitable word , would extract the DFS files, or DFF with Iso2DsD ,oh with SARACON and do not convert ! and then I burn with any burn program a DVD -R 'good
    :wave:
     
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