Byrds Nyrds: Talk about anything Byrds related here (Part 04)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by stereoptic, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Senior Member

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    That looks to be a Renaissance lute (or a modern copy, more likely). In other words, from the 15th or 16th Century, not ancient Rome.
     
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  2. carlwm

    carlwm Forum Resident

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    Many thanks for this. I suspected as much.

    It seems that these CDs (or CD-Rs) are no longer available, which is a shame. There might be a few of these old recordings on the Folk Den website. I'll jump in there and have a look. :)
     
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  3. YardByrd

    YardByrd rock n roll citizen in a hip hop world

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    One of the highlights from McGuinn's Folk Den box set... Follow the Drinking Gourd... odd video since it recounts the tune's origins but it is indeed Roger

     
  4. carlwm

    carlwm Forum Resident

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    Love this song. Jefferson Starship do an excellent version on their Tree Of Liberty album too.
     
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  5. YardByrd

    YardByrd rock n roll citizen in a hip hop world

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    Do you have Roger's Folk Den box? No idea if it's still out there and/or easy to get anymore...
     
  6. carlwm

    carlwm Forum Resident

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    I've got the Twentieth Anniverary edition. Not sure how different, if at all, it is to the original set beyond the songs being re-recorded, maybe.
     
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  7. Here is the great Molly Tuttle on a unique 12-string - which seems perfectly suited to songs of Sea Shanty’s and Irish Folk Music. (Can also think of some Byrds songs that it would sound beautiful on. )

    Roger - you gotta get one!



     
  8. nancybrooke

    nancybrooke Not quite Senior Member

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    Gene at 1:08 (sorry couldn't resist).
     
  9. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

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    This Kaptain Beyond fellow seems familiar....
     
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  10. Clarkophile

    Clarkophile Through the Morning, Through the Night

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    From The Astrology Album (1967)
    I’m sure many know this, but in case you haven’t, it’s worth a listen. Gary Usher made some strange records, and this is one of them. The Astrology Album features spoken-word pieces about the signs of the zodiac. I’m posting the track for Leo, which features a brief snippet of David Crosby’s thoughts about his own...er, Leo-nidity (?) at 2:30.
     
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  11. Clarkophile

    Clarkophile Through the Morning, Through the Night

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    Love this. Roger’s been dealing with faux Nyrds on Twitter trying to one-up him on facts surrounding “Mr Tambourine Man”/“I Knew I’d Want You.” He knows his Byrdfacts, and brought receipts. Today somebody tried to suggest Carol Kaye played bass on the single and he immediately shut that down by linking to this.
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  12. Clarkophile

    Clarkophile Through the Morning, Through the Night

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    You come for the King of the Hill, you best not miss.
     
  13. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    Based on past behavior, it was probably Carol herself who was making that false claim...
     
  14. Clarkophile

    Clarkophile Through the Morning, Through the Night

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    In fact, it was. He alluded to that in his tweet. To be fair, the guy was probably just relating what he thought was credible info.
     
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  15. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    That’s hilarious. I was making a joke, i had no idea she’d added MTM to her list.

    Paperwork won’t silence her. She played on all those Motown hits, dammit!
     
  16. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

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    She played on everything recorded in the 60s. Just ask her.

    Think that was Ravi Shankar on the sitar on Sounds of India? Nope... you guessed it... Carol Kaye.
     
  17. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

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    Reminds me of the running Norm MacDonald and Frank Stallone SNL bit. At least thats how I said it in my head.
     
  18. HoundsOBurkittsville

    HoundsOBurkittsville Deep Wine List Sonic Equivalency

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    Well-traveled ground, I know, but McGuinn, Clark & Hillman definitely sounded best --- in their element --- on the live stage. Forget the sterility nonsense that sometimes invaded their studio recordings, production-wise.


    I had the pleasure of seeing them open for America at Blossom Music Center back in the day. With more energy & a captivating stage presence, I liked 'em better than the headlining act!


    Of special note, there's a version of "So You Want to Be a Rock 'n' Roll Star" --- taped in New Jersey for "The King Biscuit Flower Hour" --- that positively pummels, like a laser-focused jet fighter, honing in on a totally exposed, hapless target. Some hyperbole necessary for me to sing the praises of this live rocker, but it truly is an amazing rendition.


    I think it's my favorite take of the classic track, with only the original studio recording by The Byrds even coming close.
     
  19. Dee Zee

    Dee Zee Once Upon a Dream

    The 2018 Sweetheart tour version of Rock and Roll Star was fantastic, Chris back on bass. Roger and Chris asked the audience to scream during the solo.
     
  20. Tube Roller

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    I know she’s up there in age, but she’s been floating these stories for 25 years. It’s so weird, because there are so many classics she *did* play on. It’s like Paul McCartney claiming he played on all the Rolling Stones hits too.
     
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  21. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

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    Nope that was Carol too. Sitar on Paint It Black too.
     
  22. PhilBorder

    PhilBorder Senior Member

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    That makes too much sense. It could be some artists are restrained too much by their own record companies, or egos, or whatever. Buy, yeah, if the ground rules are everyone gets two or three songs, and they agree on a producer, and commit to a few weeks of rehearsal or whatever they feel is necessary to be functioning as a band, maybe one cover, the it seems practical framework would be in place. Wilbury's spontaneity aside, I think most artists can't walk into situations cold.

    I leave Neil out because no one can really count on him (or his 'muse', wherever she's been...) Maybe Crosby too if he just pisses everyone off and then tweets about it. Stills, Hillman, McGuinn, Furay: 1+1+1+1 might equal 5 or at least 4.5
     
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  23. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    It is to some degree understandable that a person who played on as many sessions as she did might get confused, or conflate things in her memory (she probably did play bass on somebody's version of Mr. Tambourine Man at some point in her career). But what's much less excusable is that when she's confronted with evidence that disproves her claims (be it paperwork or testimony of people who were at the sessions in question) she gets angry and doubles down on her errors, and has even threatened litigation. This takes it beyond the realm of innocent error. Session musicians generally don't receive the credit they deserve for their great work, but taking credit away from other great session musicians is hardly the solution.
     
  24. Canyon Hiker

    Canyon Hiker Forum Resident

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    I'm working on a youtube vid and am looking for some historical info on Byrds members regarding where they lived in the 60's. I have info for Gene Clarke, Hillman and Crosby but am really looking for some insight on where McGuinn might have lived, whether it is still standing or not. Any insights would be appreciated.
     
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  25. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

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    I was under the impression he was raised at sea. ;)
     
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