Isn't is Crosby who is playing the rhythmic riff that Asheton copied (ie, the guitar on the left starting at :50)? So he's the one who deserves the credit.
Tbf there's like 6 bands with similar arrangements around that time including The Leaves, Love, The Creation, The Standells, etc.
And I know we're being silly but I'm gonna go on a limb and credit the psych and garage bands of the mid 60s for punk
According to Crosby, he was the first and they were all copying his arrangement (listen at 2:26 in this clip):
Well it must be true if Croz of 67 said it haha. Another asshat from that time, Dino Valenti, claimed to have wrote Hey Joe and I believe got taken to court by Billy Roberts.
Hmmm very good point. I just assume Rog plays all the guitars on this record. But it’s a Crosby-Hillman composition so it’s him or Chris came up with that part. I Roger’s response to my tweet informing him of the influence on Asheton he certainly didn’t defer any credit to Croz.
If Roger isn’t familiar with the song 1969 then he wouldn’t know which guitar part had been copied, his or Crosby’s (the article doesn’t make it clear). The part in question sounds like something Crosby would play, and I assume Roger is on the right channel playing the acid-rock fills concurrently.
Good points. Also the article states quite clearly which guitar part is being referred to as being copied. And yeah that would be Rog on the acid rock fills, very similar to those he plays on Bad Night At The Whiskey and Candy etc. It would make sense that Crosby plays the two note riff unless Roger recorded those parts after David left. Also the question now is who wrote that riff since the composition is shared with Chris.
Someone posted individual recording data for the songs on NBB. Crosby is obviously on it, he’s singing it. However who knows how much re-recording or changing of things went on after he was gone.
There was an old interview with Sandy Pearlman where the latter claimed to have coined the phrase "heavy metal" in a rock & roll context in his Notorious review, specifically in reference to "Artificial Energy." McGuinn seemed pretty chuffed to be associated with the idea.
I don't remember where I read this but along with the usual list of genres that The Byrds have been credited with inventing was added (presumably with tongue firmly in cheek) 'vacuum cleaner rock' (2-4-2 Foxtrot) and 'rubber band rock' (Moog Raga).
In an early review, the Jesus & Mary Chain were described as sounding like "listening to the Byrds next to an air conditioner." The Byrds, innovators that they were, got there first with "2-4-2 Foxtrot."
”Tribal Gathering” may be a better song than the Stooges track it inspired. That was an uncalled for putdown by the jouralist.
I didn't infer that at all from Chris. But he was right that Gram's family wealth might have gotten in the way of his career. In his undisciplined way, Gram drifted from one thing to another so that it is anyone's guess about whether he would have remained a musician, especially if Warner had eventually dropped him for poor sales.
Today on twitter, someone asked Rog to recommend some Byrds to a newbie. He suggested starting with Notorious and Younger.
Saw McGuinn last night in New York. It was pretty much the same show he did when I saw him more than 25 years ago. Still enjoyable. He played the 7 string most of the night. One thing I didn’t like was that he performed truncated versions of some songs. The first time I saw him, he played the Turn Turn Turn solo perfectly. This time, he skipped it. I don’t understand why he would do that. The crowd was good except for some ***** who had to clap loudly every time Roger mentioned a person’s name, or a movie, or made a reference to almost anything. It was obviously because he wanted all of us (and Roger) to know that he was hip to all of the info. Can’t stand guys like that. You’re not the only person who knows who Peter Fonda is, ya jerk.
[QUOTE="The crowd was good except for some ***** who had to clap loudly every time Roger mentioned a person’s name, or a movie, or made a reference to almost anything. It was obviously because he wanted all of us (and Roger) to know that he was hip to all of the info. Can’t stand guys like that. You’re not the only person who knows who Peter Fonda is, ya jerk.[/QUOTE] I have a bootleg McGuinn show, I forget which one, where it seems like all he does is reference other famous people in the between song banter. Dylan, Fonda, McCartney, Harrison, Candace Bergen, ...it just goes on and on and on. But he didn't mention Gene Clark's name, even when performing Feel A Whole Lot Better.
... and in the ever expanding category of what the Byrds should have done, today's suggestion is cover 'Gates of Eden'. Would have fit nicely on any of their post Sweetheart albums. Arlo's version's provides a hint of what it might have sounded like, with Clarence and Ry Cooder nicely playing off each other:
