CD shipped without jewel case - ok?

I’d say yes, unless there is something special about the case.

 

May be for the best anyway. I have often had jewel cases break during the shipping/delivering process. Cracked cases, broken hinges etc. so I have to get a new jewel case, though lately I just let it go and live with it.

 

"Hiding the information in the terms in conditions" is an oxymoron. If the terms and conditions were a hyper-dense, multi-page legal document like software licenses or credit card agreements, I would agree with you. But that's not the case here. When the seller states the information in the Terms and Conditions, that is not hiding the information - it's the opposite of hiding the information.

Again, I certainly agree that they should make it more prominent, and I would guess the seller would be receptive to a message suggesting that. But beyond that, you're doing the thing many buyers do, which is retroactively finding a reason to blame the seller for something that was your responsibility. Sorry, I know this is not what you want to hear, and I apologize in advance if you find this offensive - but you started a thread whose title asks if what the seller did here is "ok?" and so you have to expect that some of us might respond "Yes" to that question even if you were hoping for everyone to say "No."

 

Common practice. Have done that myself to cut ship costs. If someone did it without telling me I would ask for a refund . Sketchy of seller not to include this in main description. Usually when sellers jack me around like that I just kindly tell them I am going to trash their feedback, get a partial refund, or even a refund and keep it anyway - I don't tolerate overrrated condition, and tricky descriptions.

 

I didn't start the thread, and frankly I don't care if you think it is cool to send half a product via a convoluted process of putting important information about the product in the terms and conditions, rather than the product description, where it belongs.

 

Exactly the point

 

I've bought CDs without jewel cases a few times to cut shipping costs.
Usually they were cheap CDs.
And usually the packing did not protect CDs from scratching, sometimes badly.

I would not hassle if the CD you received was not damaged.
Anyway in many cases jewel cases crack in transit, and you'll need a replacement.

 

'jewel' case

 

True, but as I said it might have sth to do with changing shipping methods

From Germany it is actually cheaper to send the "Package" (= with jewel case) than a letter (= without)

 

As long as you received everything in the condition stated I would just put it in a new case. I've done that before.

 

I say smoke the slippery weasel, he needs to start telling buyers up front that he is selling CDs without cases. For me it is a protection concern - CDs out of case tend to get scuffed or scratched in transit.

 

I apologize for my error about you being the OP. My bad, sorry.

A universal practice applied to all of a seller's items - in this case no jewel case - is perfectly appropriate for Terms and Conditions, because jewel cases are not graded on Discogs. There's nothing convoluted about it.

 

You should see what happens when they ship vinyl without the cover!

 

Here is what I would do. Get the seller to send me a prepaid return label, then put a 100 pound anvil in a box and ship it back.

 

I'll go with the consensus here and take it in the shorts because that's the consensus, but as you might have guessed I don't appreciate the seller's underhanded cost-saving tactic at all. Not sure what to do about the Discogs feedback.

Is there any place online to get good jewel cases these days?

 

Buy a box of 50 and move on

 

No consensus for me - I say put some heat on that little hustler !

 

This is why I throw CDs in the trash instead of selling them. Too many PIA buyers.

 

Seriously. People are actually cheering on the completely unreasonable suggestion of leaving negative feedback for delivering the correct CD in exactly the manner the buyer agreed to? Are you kidding?

I've got an entire shipping box of 120 CDs pruned from my collection. This thread convinces me to donate them to Goodwill rather than go to the potential hassle of selling them online.

 

I'd say at least 8 out of 10 purchases I replace the jewel case anyhow because the cases are just plain scuffed and grody despite the disc itself being described as near mint. My opinion; Most sellers of used CDs are obviously not handling and storing them properly. There are some however that exceed my expectations. I like that.

 

Reading some of the responses here makes me glad I am only a buyer, not a seller.

 

It is not perfectly acceptable.

A cd comes in a case, or a cardboard sleeve. It comes in that sleeve for presentation purposes, but also, and mainly to protect the disc.

If the seller wants to remove the protective case, he is altering the product. It is as straight forward and simple as that.

It has nothing to do with the business transaction, or the shipping.
As the buyer generally pays for the shipping, then the buyer gets to decide if he wants the case or not.

Removal, or damage to part of the product, is very simply a product description issue, by simple terms of logic.

The buyer is not in the right, to alter a product in any way, and not describe it as such in the product description. That is why there is a product description.

 

No, this thread is saying that product description exists for a reason.
Anyone that is shady enough to put an obvious product description issue in the terms and conditions needs to be corrected.

 

Sketchy or not, just slap it in a new jewel case and call it a day. None of this is worth stressing about.

 

Reminds me- saw an ebay seller last week stating he will no longer continue to grade LP's anymore. Said he's had too many 'new to the format' buyers expecting flawless miracles from them.
He'll provide excellent pictures and that's it, they can judge for themselves the grade. Pretty funny!