CDs and Vinyl outselling digital downloads

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  1. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    At the moment I only stream. But I also make sure I have local copies of everything I stream. If and when Amazon stops letting you stream uploaded music, I'll have to listen to those titles locally.
     
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  2. Stephen J

    Stephen J Forum Resident

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    I do. There are many times when I hear a particular song I like that I don't want the entire album it comes from, either contemporary or from the past, and go to Amazon and download the MP3 for 99 cents or whatever. Easy way to own a song I like, and I like to own, not stream.
     
  3. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    That's largely what I've attempted to do with it--via song shuffle, streaming is like my ideal radio station.
     
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  4. jpmosu

    jpmosu a.k.a. Mr. Jones

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    Did that article mention player piano sales?
     
  5. Stephen J

    Stephen J Forum Resident

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    Yes, the report says that overall, physical media value dropped 4% from 2016 to 2017, and that was because, as you note, the rise in LP revenue was more than offset by the decline in CD revenue.

    The CD stats actually remind me of what a long run CD has had at the top of physical media. In 2016, CD unit sales fell below 100 million discs for the first time in 30 years. This year, CD sales revenue might fall below $1 Billion, that hasn't happened since 1986 either.

    Overall, CD has been the #1 physical format for 27 straight years, since 1991, and has been ahead of vinyl for 30 straight years, since 1988. Vinyl may overtake CD in the next couple of years, and that will be a tremendous comeback story, but it won't diminish CD's longevity as a dominant physical format.
     
  6. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum? Thread Starter

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    LPs have been outselling CDs for over 5 straight years, and it's not even close.

    Whwee do you get your information?
     
  7. MYQ1

    MYQ1 Forum Resident

    Yay!
    Particularly the CD part.
     
  8. Psychedelic Good Trip

    Psychedelic Good Trip Beautiful Psychedelic Colors Everywhere

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    Holy Cds and Vinyls Batman!!!

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  9. OptimisticGoat

    OptimisticGoat Everybody's escapegoat....

    What does this post mean? The statement has 3 formats. Illegal downloads and streaming win? Not in the long term in any event!
     
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  10. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum? Thread Starter

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    And the people who buy SACD and LPs are the people who buy 2 copies of each and compare the SACD vs the new reissued vinyl vs their 70s minty OG vs the DCC Gold disc vs the MFSL Ultradisc II w/the remix vs the West German target vs the Vietnamese bootleg vs the old wrinkly cassette they found in the garage...

    My point is...we purchase multiple copies of the same records. But it's only sustainable for a short period, if that makes sense...I know I'm on the wrong side of 30...and not going backwards in age, if you catch my drift.
     
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  11. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    CD & LP sales > physical media

    RIAA Releases 2017 Year-End Music Industry Revenue Report

    March 22, 2018 | RIAA News


    According to the RIAA 2017 RIAA Revenue Statistics :

    Summary
    Vinyl revenues up 10% to $395 million.

    Acc. RIAA,
    1,569,600,000 ( $1.5696 billion ) in sales represents new physical media sales
    (units shipped) in the U.S. alone, and does not incl. used CD & LP sales through the independent record stores. > over 1,500 outlets in the U.S.

    note:
    in many countries, including the UK and the U.S., the specialty record store business is booming with hundreds opening between 2013 and 2016.
     
  12. A Saucerful of Scarlets

    A Saucerful of Scarlets Commenter Turned Viewer

    I’m one of the consumers who streams. Sorry, everyone, I understand the issues around it but $11 a month to keep thousands upon thousands of albums has let me listen to farrr more music than I ever have. There’s little risk taking with it without it for me. I never would have listened to The Doors, ABBA, Cream etc. Before I was getting a Beatles song a month. I added the entire discography in 20 seconds.
     
  13. Thievius

    Thievius Blue Oyster Cult-ist

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    I'm sorry but this is incorrect. CDs are down and steadily in decline, but far exceed lp sales.
    In 2017, CDs sold 85.4 million units LPs - 14.3 million.
     
  14. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    Relax people, it's a 1.5 BILLION dollar
    annual industry in the U.S., never mind
    global statistics. It's not going anywhere
    soon.
     
  15. Granadaland

    Granadaland Forum Resident

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    Leave your computer on playing files for 3 days prior so it’s nice and ‘warmed up’ ready for critical listening........
     
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  16. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    There's absolutely nothing wrong
    with streaming. There's lossless
    stream, and there is MP3 for those
    unable to tell or care about the
    difference between lossy and
    lossless audio.

    I prefer physical over streaming
    because it is ISP independent and

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  17. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum? Thread Starter

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    Is that how you're supposed to do it?
     
  18. MaestroDavros

    MaestroDavros Forum Resident

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    I have seen an increase of digital only archive releases recently which in the past would have been released physically.

    Something I'm wondering is what the heck will happen to archival reissues if the industry goes exclusively streaming? Because those types of releases aren't suited to streaming services for a variety of reasons.
     
  19. wolfram

    wolfram Slave to the rhythm

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    I'd say it's a matter of preference. I went all-file-based a long time ago and currently I have a Mini PC that's only for musical playback. It takes about a minute to boot (maybe even less) and the HD is already connected. I turn it on and off like a CD player, but I find it much easier to cue an album in the player software, then to go through the CDs in my shelf. I still buy physical media, but only to rip it to my hard drive. After that, it mainly takes up space. If I get a better deal on a lossless or hi-res download, I take that route.
     
  20. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum? Thread Starter

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    So you play files directly off the HD?
     
  21. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    Good point. And it follows reasoning
    to points of concern, e.g. cause to
    continue supporting physical media:
    CD and LP titles have been known to go
    out of print and remain unavailable for
    years on end - for licensing reasons or
    other legal issues which consumers have
    no control over. Is it not conceivable that
    the availability of material being
    streamed is subject to change without
    notice, due to circumstances beyond the
    user's control? Corporations have only
    monetary interest in what is of intrinsic
    cultural importance to the rest of us.
    Imagine waking up one morning to
    discover that, overnight, an invisible
    hand had reached into your LP crate
    and removed several of your favorite
    titles which are irreplaceable.
     
  22. Solitaire1

    Solitaire1 Carpenters Fan

    For me, listening to my digital music is not a hassle since I don't do my actual listening on the computer except when I'm doing something else. When I want to listen to my music, that's what my Walkman DAP (it can play hi-res files) is for. I want to listen to music, I get my Walkman, put on my headphones, select what I want to hear, and then enjoy. It rarely takes me more than a few seconds to get to any song/album I want since I keep most of what I want to listen to on my player.
     
  23. Kal Rubinson

    Kal Rubinson Senior Member

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    Yeah, the phone is the wrong tool for that.

    Seems strange to me. My computers are always on and my TBs of hi-rez music are on NAS drives that are always accessible. I can play choose and music faster than you can physically locate the disc and extricate it from sleeve or case......................and I don't have to put it away afterwards.
     
  24. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

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    This is one reason I still buy records. Gonna be hand cranking that gramophone when the world ends.
     
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  25. Solitaire1

    Solitaire1 Carpenters Fan

    That is a significant issue. Despite CD being around for about 35 years, there are many LPs that still have not been released on CD. As an example, in 1982 Leslie Pearl released an album called Words & Music, which resulted in a minor hit "If The Love Fits, Wear It." Despite the hit, as far as I know the album was not released on CD in the U. S., although it was finally released as a download last year.
     
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