Cd’s when are they obsolete ?

But, it's not an accurate transcription. So, here we go again with the same tired argument.

 

Yup. I bought a few over the week and they immediately got ripped with EAC.

 

not nearly as many as vinyl

 

Nah not just kids. I know someone 61 who thinks that CDs will go the way of the cassette, even the 8-track; I don't think she knows what she's talking about though. (Maybe in 20 years though...most likely)
I get it, many like to stream, and there's nothing wrong with streaming (I discover many items I want to buy that way, though can't afford too many, and I can still listen to whatever's there for a small sum regardless)
but I think CDs will be around for a while still. I hope so.
It would help if less things for many of us if things stopped being "deluxe" versions only as that's what stupid record companies think is all all of us want, and can afford. Absurd.

 

THAT'S ANOTHER STORY...

 

The problem isn't the physical disc, it's the Red Book standard. I bet plenty of people would be happy with what would basically be a 'silver disc' CD-ROM of FLAC files at any bit depth/sample rate you choose. Plus images and text and even a small video of the promo clip.

 

Considering the quality of the general public’s playback gear, midfi audio or less, digital or Analogue, accuracy is only as high as the playback gear being used to recreate the music.

 

CD-ROM data files? That ship sailed a long time ago.

Downloads today. And even that's waning.

 

I disagree that the issue is with the Red Book Standard. Much of the problem is the mixing and mastering. If the mixing and mastering is bad, then the final result will be bad...whether it is on CD, LP, 45, compact cassette, or hi-res downloads.

I think a factor in favor of the LP/45 is that you can't do the mastering techniques used with digital that can lead to a bad final result. As an example, you can't push the loudness to the same level in an analog format as you can with a digital format (if my understanding is correct with digital you can push the loudness right up to the limit without adding distortion). With LP/45, if you make the final result too loud the needle will jump out of the groove.

 

What if they take a loud CD master that's has distortion and just de-amplify before using it for an LP master? Is that unheard of?

 

That is quite true. You don't often see CDs displayed at homes and It's been some 15 years since I had mine on display. But then, I don't display my LPs either.

 

That's what is done for the majority of new LP releases.

 

Or burn out the cutting head...

 

From my dead fingers...

 

I’m amazed at the amount of CDs being put out still, especially those UK releases I’d never be interested in.
Mungo Jerry 5 CD box?
Glenn Hughes - 7 CD live bootlegs box set?
There are many of these strange multi CD sets coming out in the UK every week, so someone must be buying them.

 

I have a lot of vintage vinyl. That being said, I pretty much only buy CDs now. Despite the naysayers, CDs sound great if properly mastered and they are a great value today. You can buy some artists entire discography for a little more than $100 in many cases. A lot of streaming and file users are learning the wisdom of having a hard copy when a label decides to pull its content from a music service.

 

To answer the original question... when I say they are and not oe second before!

 

I am now busy transfering my CD collection to 78 shellac. My ambition is to become a music oligarch after the great wars.

 

Exactly! It's like a weird two-front approach to milk the last drop of money. Dirt-cheap streaming on one side and endless mega box sets on the other. It's like the music company last stand.

 

Mastering is AN issue, not THE issue

 

Ok, stop with the misinformation, because that is plainly untrue, and is an outright false statement bordering on a lie.

Most LPs today are cut using a Hi-Res source or are in fact AAA. The overwhelming majority.

Now, when an LP is cut using the 24 bit digital master, and a CD is cut from that same master, the CD version usually has more compression and digital limiting ADDED for the CD version.

The LP version invariably get the bass summed 'mono-ish' in the middle and gets the sympathetic RIAA-suggested shaving of the highs and lows in order to facilitate the medium.

Only on the really crappy $14 Parliament and Coltrane Impulse reissues do we get a distorted CD mater cut to vinyl and those are easy to spot and weed out.

So please, stop making stuff up - if you like CDs, good for you! -
but don't go around spreading lies like 'most LPs today are just CDs pressed to vinyl' because that is a patently false statement.

Thank you.

 

It's the biggest one, because the mastering is what accommodates the music to the format.

 

Makes perfect sense, if you load up a set with 5 or 7 discs, you need only sell that many fewer sets to break the 5,000 unit number. Or any number you want to hit. It's more discs sold to fewer buyers. Great way to keep your numbers moving.

 

Isn't there always a "standard" release available? What do you mean by "deluxe"?

 

No, there isn't. For example, there's no affordable version of Alan Parsons Project's Eye In The Sky super deluxe box.