'Back in the day' Telarc recordings on CD and LP were known for quality recordings and high dynamic range.
I just added two Eric Clapton albums in 96kHz / 24bit to the DR database, that I bought at ProStudioMasters. Good dynamics on both. Analyzed: Eric Clapton / Slowhand -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR14 -1.41 dB -17.39 dB 3:42 01-Cocaine DR15 -2.04 dB -18.67 dB 3:45 02-Wonderful Tonight DR13 -1.83 dB -17.03 dB 3:56 03-Lay Down Sally DR12 -1.87 dB -16.20 dB 4:02 04-Next Time You See Her DR13 -3.13 dB -19.43 dB 2:34 05-We're All The Way DR11 -1.26 dB -14.16 dB 8:46 06-The Core DR12 -1.45 dB -15.90 dB 3:02 07-May You Never DR13 -1.44 dB -15.89 dB 4:42 08-Mean Old Frisco DR13 -1.13 dB -16.47 dB 4:50 09-Peaches And Diesel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 9 Official DR value: DR13 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 2823 kbps Codec: FLAC and Analyzed: Eric Clapton / 461 Ocean Boulevard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR13 0.00 dB -15.02 dB 4:54 01-Motherless Children DR15 0.00 dB -17.80 dB 2:54 02-Give Me Strength DR16 0.00 dB -18.30 dB 3:32 03-Willie And The Hand Jive DR15 0.00 dB -16.43 dB 3:48 04-Get Ready DR13 0.00 dB -14.85 dB 4:25 05-I Shot The Sheriff DR15 0.00 dB -17.08 dB 4:14 06-I Can't Hold Out DR12 0.00 dB -16.43 dB 3:27 07-Please Be With Me DR13 0.00 dB -16.03 dB 5:01 08-Let It Grow DR15 0.00 dB -16.63 dB 3:15 09-Steady Rollin' Man DR13 0.00 dB -14.88 dB 4:09 10-Mainline Florida -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 10 Official DR value: DR14 Samplerate: 96000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 2937 kbps Codec: FLAC
Comes to my mind the Rage Against The Machine first album; the very first CD pressing, year 1992. Talking about dynamics, the opener "Bombtrack" is devastating. First time I listened to it, I got my speakers almost blown. Great dynamic From the guitar-bass intro to the explosion of the drums and vocals.
This is a very cool topic. How I could check the DR on my cds? What software do I need in order to do this? Thanks!
One From The Vault, the live Grateful Dead show from 1975. Very well-recorded, mixed and mastered. One from the Vault - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia »
Has anyone spent much time trying to understand what actually causes a DR to measure high? I guess you have to look at complete traces. I have live recordings that measure high, and I could swear that it is due to loud applause. There are micro dynamics and macro dynamics. Classical stuff has a lot of macrodynamics - long quiet parts and long loud parts. Rock and pop cds would be more of a micro-dynamic measurement. From what little I have seen, it seems to correlate to how compressed or uncompressed drums are presented. Anybody look at the details within a DR rating?
Good CD and the new 2016 CD mastered by our host from the original 1/2" analog tape is even more dynamic! https://www.amazon.com/Rage-Against-Machine/dp/B01EMP3V5Y
There's a 1992 US promo LP that is off the frigging hook (ZAS 4832). Crazy dynamics. I don't know if the standard US 1st pressing LP uses the same mastering or not, but that promo is one very-serious slab of vinyl. I still need to get the new SACD... Been focusing on changing residences, so money's tight right now. RATM's S/T debut is a very-well-recorded album. Very-dynamic.
I would guess tighter bass would have more of an effect on the DR number than 'droning' low bass notes?
In short, bass fills space. Think of it along these lines: the mids and highs are akin to the walls of a canyon, and the low frequencies are a river flowing through those walls. Less bass energy would equate to a lower water level with the canyon walls peaking further above the surface of the river. (Thus, a higher DR number according to the Dynamic Range Database.) More bass energy would equate to a higher water level with more of the canyon walls (the midrange and highs) becoming submerged. Hence, the peaks wouldn't be quite so high. (Thus, a lower DR number according to the Dynamic Range Database.)
More bass = lower DR. Who 'da thunk it? For short term micro dynamics, what instruments have the type of energy that commonly cause DR numbers to be high. I'll stick with drums and applause. I don't think a guitar, vocals, or cymbals could. What I'm getting at are these questions: Can the person doing the mixing increase the dr of a live album by boosting the applause? Can this same person boost the dr by making the drum track louder?
All of this stuff is relative. So yes, if the (analog or digital) master hasn't been subjected to any compression/limiting then a drum-heavy mix will probably register as being more dynamic than if the drums were mixed further back with the other instruments. Again, this is all relative. So many things can alter the final outcome. As for applause? I think that would depend on the size of the audience. Twelve people applauding is not going to sound the same as 12 thousand people applauding.
The last 2 weeks worth of DRDB digital lossless TT DR14+ album/single additions not yet discussed here: Code: DR14: Billy Joel / Streetlife Serenade (SACD Stereo Mix) (2015) DR14: Boz Scaggs / Hits! (35DP 11 Japan, de-emphasised) (1982) DR14: Charly Garcia / Modern Clix (1983) DR14: Charly García / Parte de la Religión (1987) DR14: Commodores / All the Great Love Songs (1984) DR14: Invisible / Durazno Sangrando (1975) DR14: Luis Alberto Spinetta / Fuego Gris (1993) DR14: Luis Alberto Spinetta / Piel de Piel (1990) DR14: Lynyrd Skynyrd / Freebird - The Movie (Selections From The Original Soundtrack) (1996) DR14: Petra / Not of This World (1983) DR14: Ruben Blades / Escenas (1985) DR14: Shaggy / Midnite Lover (1997) DR14: Smokie / 20 Greatest Hits (1994) DR14: Spinetta Jade / Alma de Diamante (1995) DR14: Spinetta Jade / Los Niños Que Escriben En el Cielo (1994) DR14: The Alan Parsons Project / Eye In The Sky (258718 - WG) (1983) DR14: The Alarm / Strength (2 Original Classic Albums 2CD Set) (2012) DR14: The Kinks / Word Of Mouth (Original Arista CD) (1984) DR14: Toots & The Maytals / Funky Kingston (1990) DR15: Almendra / El Valle Interior (1980) DR15: Charly García / Piano Bar (1984) DR15: Falco / Junge Römer (2015) DR15: Luis Alberto Spinetta / Don Lucero (1989) DR15: Phil Collins / Hang In Long Enough [limited edition cd-single] (1990) DR16: Henri Texier / Izlaz (1988) DR16: John Cage / The Seasons (2000)
Maybe just Google for another one? I use the stand-alone TT Meter on my Mac. It was quite difficult to find, but it is out there… Also search this forum. There are a couple of threads on measuring DR and the DR database. You probably have to use something like "dynamic range measure" because "DR" would return every thread with album DR figures.
The last 2 weeks worth of DRDB digital lossless TT DR14+ album/single additions not previously mentioned in this epic thread: Code: DR14: Bauhaus / Bela Lugosi's Dead (single) (1979) DR14: Black Uhuru / Black Uhuru (1990) DR14: Black Uhuru / Black Uhuru (Guess Who's Coming To Dinner) (1987) DR14: Fabio Concato / Punto e virgola (1991) DR14: Giuliano Carmignola, Andrea Marcon & Venice Baroque Orchestra / Vivaldi - Late violin concertos (2001) DR14: Giuliano Carmignola, Andrea Marcon & Venice Baroque Orchestra / Vivaldi - Violin Concertos (2006) DR14: Giuliano Carmignola, Concerto Köln / Bach - Violin Concertos (2014) DR14: Hélène Grimaud & Sol Gabetta / Duo (2012) DR14: Louis Armstrong & His All Stars / Satch Plays Fats [Sony Legacy 192kHz-24 bit] (2016) DR14: Rheostatics / Melville (1991) DR14: Ruben Blades / Nothing But The Truth (1988) DR14: Southside Johnny / Slow Dance (1988) DR14: Tal Farlow / The Return Of Tal Farlow / 1969 (1999) DR15: Bobby Timmons Trio / In Person (1987) DR15: Robert Plant / Shaken 'N Stirred (1987) DR15: Scientist / Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires (1990) DR15: Stephen Fearing / Blue Line (1991) DR16: Cetu Javu / Southern Lands (1990) DR16: Leonard Bernstein - New York Philharmonic / Maurice Ravel - Bolero (1990)
The last 3 weeks worth of DRDB digital lossless TT DR14+ album/single additions not mentioned here before: Code: DR14: .38 Special / Strength In Numbers (AM+ Audio Master Plus Series) (1986) DR14: A Taste Of Honey / Anthology (1995) DR14: Alameda / Todas Sus Grabaciones En Discos Epic (1979-1983) (1998) DR14: Brand X / Nuclear Burn [Disc 3] (2014) DR14: Brand X / Nuclear Burn [Disc 4] (2014) DR14: Chanticleer / A Chanticleer Christmas (2010) DR14: Gang Of Four / A Brief History Of The Twentieth Century (2004) DR14: Georges Brassens / Les copains d'abord (1989) DR14: J.J. Cale / #8 (2013) DR14: J.J. Cale / Grasshopper (2013) DR14: J.J. Cale / Shades (2013) DR14: JEAN FRANCOIS MAURICE / 28º À L'Ombre (1994) DR14: Jon Lord / Sarabande (1987) DR14: LASER DANCE / AROUND THE PLANET (1991) DR14: Les Innocents / Fous à Lier (1991) DR14: Mal Waldron / Mal-4 (1986) DR14: Marvin Gaye / Let's get it on (1991) DR14: Peaches & Herb / The Best Of Peaches & Herb (1996) DR14: Pierre Moerlen's Gong / Downwind (1979) DR14: Public Image Ltd. / This Is Not A Love Song (CDS) (1988) DR14: Rachel Z / Grace [HDtracks] (2008) DR14: Santana / Beyond Appearances [Sony BMG/CMG Reissue] (2007) DR14: The Police / Ghost In The Machine (Free Download with Abbey Road Half Speed Master) (2016) DR14: The Shadows / Reflection (1990) DR14: Van Morrison / Common One (1989) DR14: Various Artists / The Disney Afternoon (1990) DR15: 091 / Tormentas Imaginarias (1993) DR15: 7 Notas 7 Colores / Hecho, Es Simple (2000) DR15: Cryptopsy / Blasphemy Made Flesh (2015) DR15: Daryl Hall & John Oates / Voices (1986) DR15: LASER DANCE / DISCOVERY TRIP (1991) DR15: Sol Gabetta / Live (2016) DR16: Chastity Potatoe / Cheated Out of Caught Dancing (2013) DR16: Jacques Loussier / Brandenburg Concertos (1991) DR16: LASER DANCE / AMBIENTE (1991) DR16: Wailing Souls / The Very Best Of (1990)
This is the Made In Canada version of Mark Knopfler's Music from the film Cal: foobar2000 1.3.10 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2016-11-17 22:30:48 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Mark Knopfler / Cal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR14 -2.90 dB -25.02 dB 4:43 01-Irish Boy DR11 -12.65 dB -27.91 dB 2:07 02-The Road DR11 -13.03 dB -28.08 dB 0:40 03-Waiting For Her DR13 -9.65 dB -27.37 dB 2:29 04-Irish Love DR11 -17.54 dB -35.21 dB 1:38 05-A Secrect Place/Where Will You Go DR18 -3.47 dB -25.50 dB 6:46 06-Father And Son DR10 -13.47 dB -29.25 dB 0:58 07-Meeting Under The Trees DR11 -9.63 dB -23.99 dB 2:10 08-Potato Picking DR11 -15.82 dB -34.73 dB 1:14 09-In A Secret Place DR18 -1.89 dB -27.55 dB 2:19 10-Fear And Hatred DR20 -4.92 dB -33.23 dB 3:10 11-Love And Guilt DR17 -4.55 dB -24.68 dB 7:20 12-The Long Road -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 12 Official DR value: DR14 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 698 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================
I recently bought this album and it really pops. Drums are very dynamic and punchy. Track # 1, 2, 4, 6 and 10 sound hopping-popping! Notice the max peaks. This album is not influenced by the loudness war ... and it is "only" DR13 as an album. Angélique Kidjo / Logozo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR13 -1.51 dB -15.76 dB 4:34 01-Batonga DR13 -1.19 dB -16.16 dB 4:38 02-Tché-Tché DR13 -1.29 dB -16.14 dB 3:51 03-Logozo DR13 -1.21 dB -16.38 dB 4:27 04-Wé-Wé DR12 -5.83 dB -20.61 dB 4:15 05-Malaïka DR14 -1.09 dB -16.50 dB 4:19 06-Ewa Ka Djo DR13 -0.55 dB -16.05 dB 4:37 07-Kaléta DR13 -1.55 dB -16.73 dB 3:51 08-Elédjiré DR10 -5.18 dB -19.85 dB 1:54 09-Sénié DR12 -1.63 dB -16.33 dB 4:13 10-Ekoléya -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 10 Official DR value: DR13 Link to the listing: Album details - Dynamic Range Database »
