The 2011 remaster of The Wall sounds really good, i have the 2016 reissue. the packaging scratches the discs though
Maybe, but 1990 CD (the one with preemphasis) had somehow more DR, and it sounded great. Didn't A/B compare them yet though. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Pink Floyd / The Wall (Immersion) (CD 1) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR10 0.00 dB -14.10 dB 3:20 01-In The Flesh? DR14 0.00 dB -18.08 dB 2:27 02-The Thin Ice DR13 0.00 dB -18.08 dB 3:12 03-Another Brick In The Wall, Part 1 DR12 0.00 dB -15.49 dB 1:51 04-The Happiest Days Of Our Lives DR14 0.00 dB -15.78 dB 3:59 05-Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2 DR15 0.00 dB -18.19 dB 5:35 06-Mother DR11 -3.46 dB -17.83 dB 2:47 07-Goodbye Blue Sky DR11 -3.40 dB -17.74 dB 2:08 08-Empty Spaces DR13 0.00 dB -15.27 dB 3:30 09-Young Lust DR13 0.00 dB -17.59 dB 3:37 10-One Of My Turns DR14 0.00 dB -17.92 dB 4:16 11-Don't Leave Me Now DR12 0.00 dB -14.33 dB 1:14 12-Another Brick In The Wall, Part 3 DR8 -9.61 dB -24.45 dB 1:17 13-Goodbye Cruel World -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR12 DUR 39:12 RG -0.93 DR 12.2; 12.5 Pk 0 RMS -16.7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Pink Floyd / The Wall (Immersion) (CD 2) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR12 0.00 dB -15.54 dB 4:40 01-Hey You DR12 -1.28 dB -20.37 dB 2:42 02-Is There Anybody Out There? DR12 -2.85 dB -19.36 dB 3:23 03-Nobody Home DR11 -3.92 dB -20.11 dB 1:33 04-Vera DR11 -1.44 dB -17.06 dB 1:27 05-Bring The Boys Back Home DR10 0.00 dB -12.87 dB 6:22 06-Comfortably Numb DR14 -0.63 dB -17.21 dB 1:37 07-The Show Must Go On DR13 0.00 dB -15.55 dB 4:16 08-In The Flesh! DR14 0.00 dB -15.31 dB 4:24 09-Run Like Hell DR10 0.00 dB -13.74 dB 3:57 10-Waiting For The Worms DR12 -7.08 dB -31.26 dB 0:31 11-Stop DR13 0.00 dB -16.65 dB 5:19 12-The Trial DR11 -14.94 dB -33.24 dB 1:46 13-Outside The Wall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR12 DUR 41:56 RG -2.28 DR 12.1; 11.9 Pk 0 RMS -17; -16.6 Original (De-Emphasised) 1990 release: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Pink Floyd / The Wall [1990] (Disc 1) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR11 -0.42 dB -16.11 dB 3:19 01-In The Flesh? DR13 -2.78 dB -21.09 dB 2:30 02-The Thin Ice DR13 -1.27 dB -20.00 dB 3:11 03-Another Brick In The Wall (Part I) DR14 -0.61 dB -18.54 dB 1:50 04-The Happiest Days Of Our Lives DR15 -2.39 dB -19.99 dB 4:02 05-Another Brick In The Wall (Part II) DR16 -1.78 dB -21.79 dB 5:34 06-Mother DR11 -6.85 dB -21.21 dB 2:49 07-Goodbye Blue Sky DR12 -0.27 dB -20.74 dB 2:08 08-Empty Spaces DR15 -0.02 dB -16.97 dB 3:32 09-Young Lust DR15 -0.02 dB -19.45 dB 3:35 10-One Of My Turns DR13 -1.81 dB -20.51 dB 4:17 11-Don't Leave Me Now DR14 -0.23 dB -18.00 dB 1:15 12-Another Brick In The Wall (Part III) DR9 -11.96 dB -27.49 dB 1:17 13-Goodbye Cruel World -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR13 DUR 39:19 RG +0.25 DR 13; 13.3 Pk -0.08; -0.02 RMS -19.4; -19.6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Pink Floyd / The Wall [1990] (Disc 2) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR13 -2.27 dB -20.19 dB 4:41 01-Hey You DR13 -4.68 dB -24.08 dB 2:58 02-Is There Anybody Out There? DR13 -6.09 dB -22.71 dB 3:12 03-Nobody Home DR12 -7.23 dB -23.09 dB 1:29 04-Vera DR11 -0.96 dB -16.81 dB 1:27 05-Bring The Boys Back Home DR12 -2.07 dB -17.23 dB 6:24 06-Comfortably Numb DR14 -3.25 dB -19.40 dB 1:38 07-The Show Must Go On DR15 -0.72 dB -18.25 dB 4:13 08-In The Flesh DR16 -0.11 dB -17.92 dB 4:21 09-Run Like Hell DR12 -1.23 dB -17.41 dB 4:03 10-Waiting For The Worms DR13 -17.12 dB -33.22 dB 0:30 11-Stop DR13 -2.34 dB -19.80 dB 5:19 12-The Trial DR11 -19.01 dB -36.72 dB 1:45 13-Outside The Wall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR13 DUR 42:01 RG +0.21 DR 12.9 Pk -0.11; -0.86 RMS -19.9; -19.7
foobar2000 1.3.16 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2020-01-09 19:11:18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Christopher Martin / John Williams at the Movies (1) Dallas Winds / John Williams at the Movies (2-13) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR15 -2.56 dB -23.19 dB 4:32 01-Olympic Fanfare & Theme DR15 -3.55 dB -24.76 dB 9:49 02-Overture (From "The Cowboys) DR15 -3.42 dB -22.53 dB 4:30 03-March (From "Superman") DR15 -1.90 dB -22.78 dB 7:54 04-Themes (From "Close Encounters of the Third Kind") DR12 -3.98 dB -22.20 dB 4:18 05-With Malice Toward None (From "Lincoln") DR13 -2.53 dB -20.66 dB 5:46 06-Main Title Theme (From "Star Wars") DR15 -1.17 dB -21.21 dB 3:20 07-Imperial March (From "Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back") DR15 -1.15 dB -21.32 dB 2:26 08-Scherzo for X Wings (From "Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens") DR16 -1.32 dB -22.95 dB 9:48 09-The Jedi Steps & Finale (From "Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens") DR13 -3.90 dB -21.92 dB 5:11 10-Theme (From "J.F.K.") DR17 0.00 dB -23.65 dB 10:40 11-Adventures on Earth (From "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial") DR17 -0.45 dB -22.75 dB 4:29 12-March (From "1941") DR14 -0.22 dB -19.22 dB 3:00 13-The Star-Spangled Banner (Arr. J. Williams) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 13 Official DR value: DR15
I think that they kept it just "so" as to work fine with no damage if one is listening nice and loud but not being abusive. I love the fine line the whole album walks.
If anyone is looking for some great '70s inspired laidback rock, check out the Australian band Ocean Alley. When I heard their latest album, "Lonely Diamond", I was surprised at its dynamic, open sound. I looked it up on the DR database and it measures DR11, so that explains why. Very unusual for a modern release to be mastered so well. Album details - Dynamic Range Database
the original Braveheart soundtrack cd had some ridiculous dynamic range. there's one track that i used to curse everytime i forgot to turn it down when the bagpipe bombastics start. and the orchestral track freedom sounds great at the climax. i do believe the new remastered cd is superior, although the bombastic section is reduced to fit better. I'm honestly not sure if that was the original mix restored, or if they also cursed enough to finally change it. it isn't noticeable at all that anything is different if you weren't aware. so both are great, but the original pushes the dynamics, at least between sections, much further. inner-track dynamics seem comparable. James Horner Braveheart (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) [20th Anniversary Edition] (Disc 1) 2015 avg min max 12 09 16 James Horner Braveheart 1995 avg min max 12 08 16 David Arnold's Independence Day and Stargate score cds are about the same also. excellent to blast at a decent volume.
Some great DR numbers here!! ATCO CD 90097 1983 Atlantic Recording Corp. Distributed by Warner Music Canada Ltd. foobar2000 1.3.14 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2021-09-17 13:28:34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: ? / ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR16 0.00 dB -17.66 dB 4:00 01-CD Track 01 DR15 -0.55 dB -19.44 dB 3:16 02-CD Track 02 DR16 -1.00 dB -19.07 dB 3:12 03-CD Track 03 DR13 -2.53 dB -19.54 dB 2:56 04-CD Track 04 DR16 -1.27 dB -19.78 dB 3:46 05-CD Track 05 DR16 -0.76 dB -18.85 dB 3:13 06-CD Track 06 DR14 0.00 dB -19.61 dB 3:02 07-CD Track 07 DR16 -2.52 dB -22.11 dB 3:35 08-CD Track 08 DR14 -3.57 dB -21.81 dB 6:09 09-CD Track 09 DR16 -0.36 dB -20.56 dB 4:29 10-CD Track 10 DR14 -2.86 dB -20.15 dB 3:49 11-CD Track 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 11 Official DR value: DR15 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 1411 kbps Codec: CDDA
A Was Not Was What Up Dog CD reportedly has a DR of 14 with the songs ranging from 12 to 18. Album details - Dynamic Range Database I happened to spot that when listening to "Walk the Dinosaur" and thinking the sound quality unusually good. I have a theory that DR affects the average listener's enjoyment greatly and is a big factor in why some songs are hits.
So basically just for everybody's info, vinyl is way better than cds, which would explain why you struggle to get decent pressings
Vinyl is better for you! I could make a giant list of the problems I have with vinyl and they’re far more troublesome than finding a good digital copy, for me! Digital music forever erased SO MANY problems I had with records growing up. To each his own.
Peter...for your first message on SHF, you decide that it would be a good idea to threadcrap. You may want to read up on the SHF rules.
A few of the most dynamic albums I have (a reference to the measurement not the quality of the music)... Freddie Hubbard Back To Birdland DR 20.18.23 Bucky Pizzarelli Swing Live DR 19.17.21 James Newton Howard & Friends James Newton Howard & Friends DR 19.10.21 Harry James And His Big Band The King James Version DR 18.16.21 Gustav Mahler - The San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, Michael Tilson Thomas Symphony No. 1 DR 17.16.20 Harry James And His Big Band Harry James & His Big Band (Best Of…) DR 17.16.18 Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues DR 17.15.20 Germany Target Wycliffe Gordon Dreams Of New Orleans DR 17.15.20 Black Uhuru Sinsemilla DR 17.15.19
I listened to The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking by Roger Waters last night and it seemed to have a lot of dynamic range, possibly even more than Pink Floyd's The Final Cut. foobar2000 1.6.2 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2020-10-26 09:34:17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Roger Waters / The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR12 -5.66 dB -25.29 dB 3:12 01-4:30 AM (Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad) DR11 -1.07 dB -17.66 dB 4:08 02-4:33 AM (Running Shoes) DR11 -7.12 dB -23.17 dB 2:17 03-4:37 AM (Arabs With Knives And West German Skies) DR8 -3.81 dB -17.86 dB 2:03 04-4:39 AM (For The First Time Today, Part 2) DR10 -0.88 dB -14.34 dB 4:49 05-4:41 AM (Sexual Revolution) DR14 -5.78 dB -25.37 dB 3:09 06-4:47 AM (The Remains Of Our Love) DR9 -1.75 dB -15.67 dB 7:00 07-4:50 AM (Go Fishing) DR10 -4.51 dB -20.98 dB 1:38 08-4:56 AM (For The First Time Today, Part 1) DR12 -2.27 dB -21.00 dB 3:04 09-4:58 AM (Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin) DR9 -0.51 dB -12.81 dB 4:37 10-5:01 AM (The Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking, Part 10) DR10 -0.91 dB -16.80 dB 4:49 11-5:06 AM (Every Stranger's Eyes) DR11 -8.51 dB -25.75 dB 1:28 12-5:11 AM (The Moment Of Clarity) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 12 Official DR value: DR11 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 556 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ Disc has WCK 39290 to the right of the hole on it.
The best examples have to be in the classical genre. Some truly amazing sounding recordings too many to mention
There are so many, many albums with such great dynamic range and as we all know this doesn't ensure an album as being something we will appreciate.
I just got a new one on the cheap last week. I took a chance and was very pleasantly surprised to find it sounded good and the dynamics were intact. My surprise was because this was released in 2017! Sam & Dave - Stax Classics Foobar2000 1.3.17 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2022-06-01 10:14:39 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Sam & Dave / Stax Classics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR13 0.00 dB -14.55 dB 2:38 01-Hold On, I'm Comin' DR14 0.00 dB -15.65 dB 2:40 02-Soul Man DR14 0.00 dB -15.50 dB 2:46 03-I Thank You (LP/Single Version) DR13 -0.03 dB -16.07 dB 2:36 04-Soothe Me DR13 -0.10 dB -17.28 dB 3:19 05-When Something Is Wrong With My Baby DR15 -0.12 dB -17.15 dB 2:41 06-You Don't Know Like I Know DR11 -3.26 dB -15.70 dB 2:32 07-Don't Knock It DR15 0.00 dB -18.21 dB 2:44 08-I Can't Stand Up For Falling Down DR13 -0.69 dB -16.25 dB 2:51 09-You Got Me Hummin' DR15 -0.10 dB -17.00 dB 2:57 10-A Place Nobody Can Find DR14 0.00 dB -16.23 dB 2:38 11-Said I Wasn't Gonna Tell Nobody DR15 0.00 dB -16.82 dB 2:33 12-I Take What I Want -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 12 Official DR value: DR14 Samplerate: 44100 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16 Bitrate: 540 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================
Kenny Dorham / 'Round About Midnight At The Cafe Bohemia CDP 7243 8 33576 2 2 TTDR Offline Meter 1.1 Disk 1, 16 Disk 2, 15 What a nice surprise, 1995 Release
