Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Stebbin, Feb 28, 2022.
It's not for me, that's for sure!
Everything you are hearing is due to the stylus velocity perpendicular to the groove. If 45 and 33.3 cuts have the same modulation velocity, usually normalized to 5cm/sec (though I'm not sure if that is universally taken to be peak or rms) then the loudness will be the same and the stylus will move the same whether the LP is 33.3 or 45rpm. What will be different is the angle the stylus moves with respect to the groove center-line - at 45rpm that angle doesn't have to be so large to give the same velocity.
Now, it turns out there is a rule of thumb that says you should never let the cutting stylus deviation from the center-line approach 45 degrees (for the reason explained here: Stereo Lab - Maximum recorded velocities on gramophone records ). For 45rpm you can allow a higher modulation velocity before reaching 45 degrees deviation - and that is the reason 45rpm can be cut louder. But, as to more accurately tracing the details of the groove I don't see that 45rpm has an advantage (for the reasons explained in post #4416)
To answer your question about tape heads spinning faster - that movement is always linear along the track so faster spin gives faster movement along the track. For the LP, as you use a higher rotational speed you end up closer to the label than you would with a lower rotational speed and the linear velocity through the groove is the same in both cases so no advantage.
The Dr. John record is one of the gems of this series. Can’t wait.
Bad Company for $60…hehehehe
I had never heard Bad Co. prior to Chad's announcement. I just streamed it today and it is FANTASTIC !! I am stoked to get the upcoming release. Amazing how I never heard it until now. Same for Dr. John's in the right place. That one sounds wonderful as well. Unfortunately Gris Gris still does not inspire me but maybe a few more listenings might do the trick?
So many versions of the same album. Even things like Crosby “If I Could Only Remember” have been released multiple times… even AAA… in the past couple years.
Trying to be excited…
And for albums like Foxtrot… 45 coukd only mess up “Supper’s Ready”.
I dunno. Some albums were released 33 and should stay that way.
Yep- I've been You Tubing Gris Gris, and it's definitely an acquired taste. The music is pretty Out There.
I’m in for the Ray Charles albums.
Try Hootie & The Blowfish for $60 in 2xLP 45rpm audiophile pressing. Huh?
Bad Company is good stuff. It's just that most people are burnt out on having heard it a million times. Understandable but since I haven't heard those songs often at all, I enjoy them... regardless of the negative bias @GentleSenator has about them.
hey now, i didn't say i have a problem with them. at least i don't think i did...
It’s all good, I just see these original Bad Company albums in the used bins all the time. Sometimes you can find one in excellent condition for around $10 bucks. I grew up with this stuff in high school back when these records came out, sorry I didn’t mean to knock them.
People can knock them; it doesn't bother me. I was merely offering an explanation for the reason why some might be raising an eyebrow regarding their selection.
Personally, I think only the first two albums are great. Since the S/T has already been offered the audiophile treatment multiple times (in 33rpm, no less), I did find it an odd choice as well.
I've become such a huge Dr. John fan over the past half-decade. I'm listening to Sun, Moon & Herbs right now. I'm not going to buy any of these Atlantic 75 titles. But I might buy the Dr. John.
My point is that the selection doesn’t excite me.
So I know that the description for the Genesis albums says that they're sourced from the original master tapes. That should mean that they're the original mixes, not the re-mixed versions. Has Chad specifically stated anywhere that they are definitely NOT the remixes?
My apologies. I know the topic has been discussed on this and the other thread, but, using the search function, I didn't see an answer to my specific question.
Since Nick Davis isnt part of this project, and you cant just "remix" the original master-tapes (as fas as I know, please correct me if Im wrong), these are the original mixes. Mastered "directly" from the original analogue tapes...
I am debating whether to buy it. If I don’t do it, somebody else will!
I'm a huge Dr John fan. "Right Place" is a party record. Very accessible. "Gris Gris" is a great psychedelic record but you definitely have to be in the right mood for it. "Walk on Gilded Splinters" is definitely one of his best songs.
I LOVE Gris Gris, and agree about Walk on Gilded Splinters. That and Zu Zu Mamou have that creepy trippy voodoo vibe that makes you feel like you're lost in the swamp and potentially in trouble from malign forces. The Speakers Corner pressing of Gris Gris sounds great and is pretty widely available.
That’s what I’m assuming. I guess I was hoping somewhere there’s a direct statement from Chad saying specifically that they will not be the remixes. It certainly seems that the statement that they’re the original analogue masters would rule out the remixes though.
That’s the pressing I have as well. It’s great.