'Classic Track' for discussion: 'Mr. Tambourine Man' - The Byrds

YIKES!! not to get of the subject off the song but Steve that *IS* nuts!

All I was thinking after reading your post earlier that he also did a lot of the Paul Revere and The Raiders songs if my memory is right on that too.

Gosh just think what would have happened if he had signed him to a contract. Terry would probably wanted to kill himself just trying to make the recordings sound BAD.

 

I thought that this is the way it 'went down'. Those were indeed crazy times...

Bob

 

I think he was just the crazy one along with his crazy sick gang, I wouldn't blame it so much on the time or era Bob. PEACE and LOVE were more of the era of the times for the most part.

I'd remember Vietnam more than I would Manson IMHO as the crazy times. Again sorry to get off the subject of the song and The Byrds.

 

Well, we can rule out Manson as the tambourine player!

 

If I recall correctly, Manson knew that Terry Melcher didn't live there anymore at the time of the murders, although he did pick the house because of Melcher's connection with it.

 

I always thought that they killed Tate because they mistook her for
Melcher's blonde at-the-time-girlfriend Candice Bergen.

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Correct me if I am mistaken, guys, but I thought
there was an earlier stereo mix of this song
with the instruments on one side and the vocals on the other.

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Is the Razor & Tie comp still in print anywhere??

 

Are the session players still collecting income from these recordings?

Jim W.

 

Re: Re: 'Classic Track' for discussion: 'Mr. Tambourine Man' - The Byrds

NO WAY Jim, they got paid for their session time and that's it I'm sure. While Dylan and The Byrds I'm sure still make though as well as Columbia or CBS records do and BMI or ASCAP.

 

That's a shame (about the session players), Beatle Terr.

 

Yep Jim that's one way to look at, at the same time the session player gets paid for all of their work.

There was no promise made to them that The Byrds or Mr. Tambourine Man would have been the hit that it turned out to be.

That would be like saying Eric Clapton gets royalties for playing on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" from The White Album.

It's just part of the business. Some players don't even bother to get paid at all if they happen to be friends of the group or just happen to be in the studio and get a chance to play on any given track.

Most session people belong to their local unions and the more sessions they play, the more well known they get and the more money they also end up making. I guess you can say it's sort of a double edged sword if you want the work.

 

That was "Turn, Turn, Turn" that "turned" up in in a vocals on one channel/instruments on the right channel stereo mix.

 

Indeed, he had visited the house himself some time before sending out Tex Watson and the gang to murder anyone who was there. IIRC, he had been looking for Melcher one afternoon but was told he either wasn't around or no longer lived there. Very likely Sharon Tate exchanged glances with the man who would later order her killed. Who was killed was irrelevant to Manson; he ordered the gang to kill anyone who was around, which was why a teenager visiting the caretaker(who lived in a cottage behind the main house)was killed first before his car could leave the driveway.

ED

 

Can someone tell me more about the "Changing Times" CD??

 

This old thread should answer most of your questions ... but good luck finding a copy ... it was a TV CD that didn't sell well and was quickly deleted according to my sources.

BTW, good job Bob .

 

Chip,

Thanks for your comment! I am making this discussion of 'classic tracks' a regular Sunday Forum feature.

Who knows what I will conjure up for next Sunday?

Bob

 

I hope to find it interesting Bob to participate again, as I said I love to learn about recordings that I have know idea existed other than in this case the mono hit version.

Plus the fact that there are so many different versions or remasters.

Best of all finding out stuff like studio cats actually played on the track instead of the actual band members.

Makes things interesting for me and others, it's always cool to share this type of info. You're TOP NOTCH in my book.

 

Great thread Bob. According to Dylan, the "inspiration" for "Mr. Tambourine Man" was guitarist Bruce Langhorne. Langhorne played on several Dylan sessions produced by Tom Wilson. On one occasion, Wilson asked Langhorne to play tambourine and Langhorne brought out a hugh tambourine. As Dylan described in the "Biograph" liner notes: "It was big, as big as a wagon wheel. He was playing and this vision of him playing just stuck in my mind."

 

This hasn't been mentioned yet. The song was originally only available in mono or cheesy channeled stereo. Then "Never Before" brought out a stereo mix from the 3 track. This mix was recreated for the Box Set. Then came the newest mix from the 8-track which surfaced in "Mr. Tambourine Man" - the album.

 

David, John,

Thanks the the additional info and the comments.

Bob

 

Trying to steal my thunder eh?

Actually, the Leonard Nimoy version is more compelling!

I am still thinking 'bout this coming Sunday's track....

Bob

 

After reviewing this thread, Bob, please don't choose "Helter Skelter."

mud-

 

Good tip Mud!

Bob

 

If you do the Whip Lady will be sent your way.

mud-