Classical "Mega" CD Box Sets

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by dajokr, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. Rmihai0

    Rmihai0 Thread Starter

    Location:
    Toronto
    Chailly box: Thank you so much! I have the Brahms symphonies with Chailly - stunning indeed .

    Beethoven Warner Box: Harnoncourt symphonies sold them silly of me many years ago - those are very nice. My uncertainty with this set is exactly Kovacevich ! I am perfectly fine with the rest ... just Kovacevich is holding me ... and making me unsure ...
     
  2. likes2listen2beethoven

    likes2listen2beethoven Forum Resident

    Location:
    NJ

    Jpc also has the complete Wilhelm Backhaus set if you are looking to use their coupon
     
  3. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Which is not available yet - the release date has been put back to January 10, as is shown on JPC's site and the sites of other EU stores. I used my coupon for the big Bruno Walter set.
     
  4. DEVA

    DEVA Forum Resident

    Location:
    Brasil
    Rmihai0,
    Despites my reservations about Kovacevich cycle, please let me add that while I still think this should not be "the first choice", nor should it be "the only cycle to have", I still praise very highly these recordings. A have a handful of complete sets of Beethoven sonatas in my collection (Kempf 1950´s, Kempf 1960´s, Arrau, the almost complete Gilels, Gulda...) and Kovacevich is among of them, and I have no intention to get rid of if. It is just not my first nor second choice, but there are moments depending on my mood when its stronger energy fits well and it is among my essencial cycles to have. Then I would definetelly not avoid the Beethoven Complete Edition by Warner just because of it. It would rather be for me one more reason to buy the set Warner set if I did not have this cycle of sonatas in a separated smaller set.

    What is holding me is rather the duplications... despites Kovacevich, from this Warner Complete set I also have the Perlman recordings, Jacqueline Dupré and some others.

    regards,
    DB
     
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  5. cdgenarian

    cdgenarian Forum Resident

    Location:
    North Carolina
    I was a little confused about the offerings, but especially duplications, on the Bruno Walter box, so I did a quick spreadsheet using the Amazon photo of the index on the back of the box as a guide. Below is the list, sorted by Composer, then Work, and finally CD number. I wanted the Bruno tribute CDs to show up last, so I used the letter "Z".

    CD COMPOSER WORK

    10 Barber Sym 1
    66 Beethoven O'tures
    1 Beethoven PC 5
    22 Beethoven Sym 1
    43 Beethoven Sym 1
    15 Beethoven Sym 2
    43 Beethoven Sym 2
    2 Beethoven Sym 3
    12 Beethoven Sym 3
    39 Beethoven Sym 3
    15 Beethoven Sym 4
    40 Beethoven Sym 4
    3 Beethoven Sym 5
    22 Beethoven Sym 5
    40 Beethoven Sym 5
    38 Beethoven Sym 6
    13 Beethoven Sym 7
    44 Beethoven Sym 7
    13 Beethoven Sym 8
    44 Beethoven Sym 8
    14 Beethoven Sym 9
    19 Beethoven Sym 9
    45 Beethoven Sym 9
    36 Beethoven Triple cto
    4 Beethoven VC
    54 Beethoven VC
    61 Brahms Alto rapsody - Schicksalslied
    35 Brahms Double cto
    47 Brahms Double cto
    68 Brahms Requiem
    23 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    24 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    25 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    48 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    49 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    50 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    55 Bruckner Sym 4
    67 Bruckner Sym 7
    69 Bruckner Sym 7
    51 Bruckner Sym 9
    26 Bruckner Te Deum
    10 Dvorak Sym 8
    41 Dvorak Sym 8
    41 Dvorak Sym 9
    69 Gluck Iphigenie en Aulide o'ture
    31 Haydn Sym 102
    65 Haydn Sym 88 - Sym 100
    31 Haydn Sym 96
    60 Mahler Das Lied von der Erde
    61 Mahler Liede eines fahrenden Gesellen
    26 Mahler Sym 1
    59 Mahler Sym 1
    37 Mahler Sym 2
    5 Mahler Sym 4
    11 Mahler Sym 5
    56 Mahler Sym 9
    57 Mahler Sym 9
    4 Mendelssohn VC
    20 Mozart Bass arias
    62 Mozart Last 6 symphonies
    63 Mozart Last 6 symphonies
    64 Mozart Last 6 symphonies
    30 Mozart Nachtmusik - dances - o'tures
    58 Mozart Nachtmusik - o'tures
    32 Mozart Requiem
    7 Mozart Soprano & bass arias
    18 Mozart Soprano arias
    27 Mozart Sym 25
    27 Mozart Sym 28
    27 Mozart Sym 29
    17 Mozart Sym 35
    28 Mozart Sym 36 & BW rehearse
    29 Mozart Sym 36 & BW rehearse
    6 Mozart Sym 38
    33 Mozart Sym 39
    17 Mozart Sym 40
    6 Mozart Sym 41
    33 Mozart Sym 41
    42 Mozart VC 3
    42 Mozart VC 4
    35 Schubert Sym 5
    52 Schubert Sym 5 - Sym 8 - Sym 9
    53 Schubert Sym 5 - Sym 8 - Sym 9
    21 Schumann Dichterliebe
    21 Schumann Frauenliebe und leben
    47 Schumann PC
    8 Schumann Sym 3
    9 Smetana Moldau
    34 Strauss J. Waltzes & o'tures
    16 Strauss R. Don Juan
    16 Strauss R. Tod und Verklarung
    46 Wagner Preludes
    66 Wagner Preludes - Siefried idyll
    16 Wagner Siegfried idyl
    70 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    71 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    72 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    73 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    74 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    75 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    76 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    77 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
     
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  6. Salvatore Massaro

    Salvatore Massaro Forum Resident

    Location:
    Bloomington, IN
    I have much of the material on this box and I'm not obsessed with Beethoven enough (sacrilege) to want the rest of it. Instead, I bought Warner's Barenboim Beethoven box If you want the most detailed discussion of what's on the new Warner box in comparison with the other new boxes, there's this discussion thread:
    Google Groups
     
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  7. muzzer

    muzzer Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    Which box is this? Thank you.
     
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  8. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    The Bruno Walter box, as noted in the post you quoted.

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  9. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    What's up with the Bruno Walter box set? Anyone knows?
    I preordered it from Amazon back in August.
    It was supposed to come out in November, then December 6, I just checked a moment ago and now it shows Jan 5 -Feb 6?:shrug:
     
  10. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    It did come out on November 22 in Europe (I got my copy last week), but there seems to be some delay in North America.
     
  11. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member

    Location:
    Frenchtown NJ USA
    Using the list that @cdgenarian posted, I used red to indicate compositions that are also in the 'Edition' box. Recording specifics are absent so you can't get too detailed with this. Also I provide no indication of anything that might be unique to the 'Edition' box. FWIW. :)

    CD COMPOSER WORK

    10 Barber Sym 1
    66 Beethoven O'tures
    1 Beethoven PC 5

    22 Beethoven Sym 1
    43 Beethoven Sym 1
    15 Beethoven Sym 2

    43 Beethoven Sym 2
    2 Beethoven Sym 3
    12 Beethoven Sym 3
    39 Beethoven Sym 3
    15 Beethoven Sym 4

    40 Beethoven Sym 4
    3 Beethoven Sym 5
    22 Beethoven Sym 5
    40 Beethoven Sym 5
    38 Beethoven Sym 6

    13 Beethoven Sym 7
    44 Beethoven Sym 7
    13 Beethoven Sym 8

    44 Beethoven Sym 8
    14 Beethoven Sym 9
    19 Beethoven Sym 9
    45 Beethoven Sym 9
    36 Beethoven Triple cto
    4 Beethoven VC

    54 Beethoven VC
    61 Brahms Alto rapsody - Schicksalslied
    35 Brahms Double cto
    47 Brahms Double cto
    68 Brahms Requiem
    23 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    24 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    25 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    48 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures

    49 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    50 Brahms Syms - Haydn var - O'tures
    55 Bruckner Sym 4
    67 Bruckner Sym 7

    69 Bruckner Sym 7
    51 Bruckner Sym 9
    26 Bruckner Te Deum

    10 Dvorak Sym 8
    41 Dvorak Sym 8
    41 Dvorak Sym 9
    69 Gluck Iphigenie en Aulide o'ture
    31 Haydn Sym 102
    65 Haydn Sym 88 - Sym 100
    31 Haydn Sym 96
    60 Mahler Das Lied von der Erde
    61 Mahler Liede eines fahrenden Gesellen

    26 Mahler Sym 1
    59 Mahler Sym 1
    37 Mahler Sym 2
    5 Mahler Sym 4
    11 Mahler Sym 5
    56 Mahler Sym 9

    57 Mahler Sym 9
    4 Mendelssohn VC
    20 Mozart Bass arias
    62 Mozart Last 6 symphonies
    63 Mozart Last 6 symphonies
    64 Mozart Last 6 symphonies
    30 Mozart Nachtmusik - dances - o'tures
    58 Mozart Nachtmusik - o'tures
    32 Mozart Requiem

    7 Mozart Soprano & bass arias
    18 Mozart Soprano arias
    27 Mozart Sym 25
    27 Mozart Sym 28
    27 Mozart Sym 29
    17 Mozart Sym 35
    28 Mozart Sym 36 & BW rehearse

    29 Mozart Sym 36 & BW rehearse
    6 Mozart Sym 38
    33 Mozart Sym 39
    17 Mozart Sym 40
    6 Mozart Sym 41

    33 Mozart Sym 41
    42 Mozart VC 3
    42 Mozart VC 4

    35 Schubert Sym 5
    52 Schubert Sym 5 - Sym 8 - Sym 9
    53 Schubert Sym 5 - Sym 8 - Sym 9
    21 Schumann Dichterliebe
    21 Schumann Frauenliebe und leben
    47 Schumann PC
    8 Schumann Sym 3
    9 Smetana Moldau
    34 Strauss J. Waltzes & o'tures
    16 Strauss R. Don Juan
    16 Strauss R. Tod und Verklarung
    46 Wagner Preludes

    66 Wagner Preludes - Siefried idyll
    16 Wagner Siegfried idyl
    70 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    71 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    72 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    73 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    74 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    75 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    76 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
    77 ZZ: Bruno Walter ZZ: Bruno Walter
     
  12. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Thanks!

    I wonder what's going on.
     
  13. gardibolt

    gardibolt Forum Resident

    Location:
    Madison, Wis. USA
    I would agree entirely with DEVA's assessment of the Kovacevich cycle. It should not be your only set of the Beethoven sonatas, but it's an essential one, like Annie Fischer's. I couldn't do without Arrau, and Kempff, Brautigam and Gulda are at the top of the heap so far as I'm concerned. I'm also developing a strong fondness for Angela Hewitt's cycle, which due to her Bach background emphasizes the transition from the Baroque elements still found in the early sonatas to the Classical to the early Romantic superbly.
     
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  14. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

    Location:
    Northeast
    Someone on another classical forum said Sony Classical's distribution to the US is a bit delayed compared to Europe (sounded like he/she had some inside knowledge). I've noticed the US retailers will run out of stock on Sony boxes while Europe will have them for weeks later until theirs is depleted too and then the set is out of print.

    I would put money on Amazon US getting theirs at some point, I'm not cancelling my preorder :)
     
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  15. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Thanks, I looked at the Target and their price is the same as Amazon but they show a delivery date of Dec 11. I placed an order but did not cancel my Amazon preorder yet. I will if the one from Target arrives earlier.
    I am really hoping to be able to listen to the set during the holidays.:)
     
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  16. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    I got mine this week-from jpc.de
     
  17. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    The various US prices of the Walter set are much lower than any I've seen on EU sites, that's probably why most US members here ordered their sets from domestic stores. I hope for them that it doesn't go the way of the Szell set, which was available for only a very limited time.
     
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  18. jpmosu

    jpmosu a.k.a. Mr. Jones

    Location:
    Ohio, USA
    Any U.S. customers receive the Bruno Walter CompleteColumbia box from Amazon?

    I ordered a while back--it shows "released December 6th." But no shipping or no nothing so far.
     
  19. Rmihai0

    Rmihai0 Thread Starter

    Location:
    Toronto
    As it is in US/Canada - I am personally not necessarily finding the Walter's Box set prices attractive ... Maybe is just me ... but they will need to fall at least another 15% for me just to look at it ... Otherwise I will live happily ever after with my vinyl.
     
  20. DEVA

    DEVA Forum Resident

    Location:
    Brasil



    I eventually ordered today this "Callas-Remastered-Complete-Recordings-1949-1969"
    (
    Maria Callas)

    This ordering surprised even myself, since I am one who wrote here some time ago that the timbre of her voice was not to my taste.
    So what happened? Well, after reading this post by "Michael H" quoted above (with this not-bo-be-missed price), and after a warm indication from a colleague in other forum, and curious to understand why the rest of the whole world praise her so highly, I´ve been sampling and listening in the past weeks. I´ve listened specially this 4-hour long video on Youtube with 50 arias (and I must confess several of the arias I repeated 4 or 5 times so good they are)



    Ok I admit I was wrong all these years. While one could easily list a handful of sopranos with voices more beautful than Callas´, one has to admit that her interpretation added something very very very special, to about everything she touched.

    Ordered !

    If I am luck enough, I´ll receive the box-set before Christmas 2021 :)

    P.S. It is a pitty no money left to buy also her "live" set.


    P.S.2: Thank you "Michael H" !!!!


    regards,
    DB
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2019
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  21. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

    Location:
    Northeast
    Have you (or anyone here) bought music from Target before, if so how is their packing? I think I will make an order there as well as my wife has the Red card.

    Edit: apparently Paul Badura-Skoda's Astree cycle of Beethoven Piano Sonatas on period instruments is coming back in print. I might have to hear more of the late sonatas to determine if I want to buy this, I am leaning towards yes to have at least one complete set on period instruments.

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    Last edited: Dec 6, 2019
  22. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Yes, it's a strange situation. Perhaps some North America-only copyright issues? Just guessing, of course. Checked several EU sites earlier today and the set is widely available here.
     
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  23. JuniorMaineGuide

    JuniorMaineGuide Forum Resident

    Location:
    Boulder, Colorado
    I'm excited for this one, the original CDs are unobtanium!
     
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  24. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    I have only ordered the NYPO 175th Anniversary box set from them in the past and the packing was fine.
     
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  25. gardibolt

    gardibolt Forum Resident

    Location:
    Madison, Wis. USA
    I've tried ordering a couple CD boxes from Target and every time they've cancelled, saying they couldn't get it. I missed out on the first round of Szell because of that, and when it disappeared immediately I got pretty anxious. So I don't have very high hopes from them. You may be luckier.
     
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