Classical "Mega" CD Box Sets

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by dajokr, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. Gentian

    Gentian Forum Resident

    Location:
    Belgium
    Orpheus Chamber Orchestra can be pre-ordered at fnac.be for € 66,99 (& free p&p within Belgium) - offer lasts until Monday 10 am
    Also at fnac.be: Karajan Sibelius 5CD + BRA for 2,99
     
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  2. Luisboa

    Luisboa Forum Resident

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    Coimbra, Portugal
    I dont think is possible to buy it outside Belgium
     
  3. WWC

    WWC Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Maryland
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    Igor Markevitch – The Philips Legacy
    Igor Markevitch
    Label
    Decca Eloquence
    Catalogue No.
    Barcode
    Format
    26-CD
    About
    TRACK LISTING / ARTISTS
    CD 1
    HAYDN Symphonies Nos. 103 & 104
    WEBER Preciosa – Overture

    CD 2
    MOZART Piano Concertos Nos. 20 & 24
    Clara Haskil

    CDs 3–4
    BEETHOVEN Symphonies Nos. 1, 5, 8 & 9

    CD 5
    BEETHOVEN Piano Concerto No. 3
    CHOPIN Piano Concerto No. 2
    Clara Haskil

    CD 6
    BERG ∙ BRAHMS ∙ KODÁLY
    Arthur Grumiaux

    CD 7
    BIZET Carmen · L’Arlésienne – Suites

    CDs 8–13
    TCHAIKOVSKY The Symphonies
    Francesca da Rimini · Hamlet

    CD 14
    RIMSKY-KORSAKOV
    Capriccio Espagnol; Scheherazade

    CD 15
    TCHAIKOVSKY ∙ RIMSKY-KORSAKOV ∙ BORODIN

    CDs 16–17
    STRAVINSKY
    Ballet music; Suites; Histoire du Soldat; Symphonie de Psaumes

    CD 18
    MUSSORGSKY ∙ TCHEREPNIN ∙ LEOPOLD MOZART ∙ BIZET
    Galina Vishnevskaya

    CDs 19–20
    VERDI Ballet Music, Preludes & Overtures
    Messa da Requiem
    Vishnevskaya ∙ Isakova ∙ Ivanovsky ∙ Petrov

    CDs 21–22
    Spanish Choral Music

    CD 23
    Songs and Dances of Spain
    Ángeles Chamorro

    CD 24
    FALLA ∙ CHABRIER ∙ RAVEL

    CDs 25–26
    Antologia de la Zarzuela
     
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  4. WWC

    WWC Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Maryland
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    Igor Markevitch – The Deutsche Grammophon Legacy
    Igor Markevitch
    Label
    Deutsche Grammophon/Eloquence
    Catalogue No.
    Barcode
    Format
    21-CD
    About
    TRACK LISTING / ARTISTS
    CD 1
    CHERUBINI Requiem No. 2
    MOZART Krönungsmesse
    (rec. 1959)

    CD 2
    MOZART Symphonies Nos. 34, 38 & 35
    GLUCK Sinfonia in G major


    CD 3
    MOZART Bassoon Concerto
    Allard
    HAYDN Sinfonia concertante, H.I: 105
    Alès · Remond · Mayousse · Droulez
    CIMAROSA Concerto for two flutes
    Nicolet · Demmler
    SCHUBERT Symphony No. 3

    CD 4
    BEETHOVEN Overtures

    CD 5
    BEETHOVEN Symphony No. 3 ‘Eroica’

    CD 6
    BEETHOVEN Symphony No. 6 ‘Pastoral’

    CD 7
    BRAHMS Symphony No. 1

    CD 8
    BRAHMS Symphony No. 4
    BERLIOZ Harold en Italie

    Heinz Kirchner

    CD 9
    BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique (rec. 1961)
    CHERUBINI ∙ AUBER Overtures

    CDs 10–11
    BERLIOZ La Damnation de Faust
    Verreau · Roux · Rubio · Mollet

    CD 12
    GOUNOD Symphony No. 2
    BIZET Jeux d’enfants
    DEBUSSY La Mer; Deux
    Danses

    CD 13
    RUSSIAN ORCHESTRAL WORKS
    RIMSKY-KORSAKOV · BORODIN · LYADOV · GLINKA

    CD 14
    TCHAIKOVSKY Symphony No. 6; Francesca da Rimini

    CD 15
    WAGNER Lohengrin; Tannhäuser; Siegfried Idyll; Die Walküre

    CD 16
    MILHAUD Les Choéphores
    HONEGGER Symphony No. 5
    ROUSSEL Bacchus et Ariane: Suite No. 2


    CD 17
    BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique (rec. 1953)
    MUSSORGSKY Pictures At An Exhibition

    CD 18
    BERWALD Symphonies Nos. 3 & 4
    SCHUBERT Symphony No. 4


    CDs 19–20
    HAYDN Die Schöpfung
    Seefried · Holm · Borg
    MOZART: Krönungsmesse (rec. 1954)
    Stader · Wagner · Krebs · Greindl

    CD 21
    GOUNOD Messe solennelle de Sainte Cécile
    Seefried · Stolze · Uhde
    An interview with Igor Markevitch
     
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  5. Torran

    Torran Forum Resident

    Location:
    Italy
    I'm afraid they will be rather expensive, but wonderful! Sure better than the scribendum one!
     
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  6. fogalu

    fogalu There is only one Beethoven

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    Killarney, Ireland
  7. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

    I'm guessing that's why I've failed to find a listing for the Szeryng mega-box on Discogs, or even the Sony 25 disc Beethoven Legendary Recordings - it's too much of a hassle to create a listing!
     
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  8. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

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  9. Luisboa

    Luisboa Forum Resident

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    Coimbra, Portugal
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  10. cws

    cws Forum Resident

    Location:
    Winter Springs, FL
    This description gave me shocking flashbacks of AOL dial up in the mid-1990s. It sounds incredibly clunky!
     
  11. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
  12. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

    I don't have the original, but at a quick glance it's simpler packaging, no hardback book, and missing quite a few discs - the original had more than one version of some of the repertoire.
     
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  13. Wombat79

    Wombat79 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    The original had 118 cds, 3 audio blu-rays and 2 dvds while the new one has 95 cds. So the original has an extra 23 cds (alternative performances I guess - for example the Gardiner symphony cycle is missing), 2 dvds (Bernstein Fidelio and some Kleiber symphonies) and 3 blu rays (Kempff piano sonatas, Amadeus Quartet string quartets and Karajan symphonies).

    I also note the original box was promoted as having over 175 hours of music and the new one over 115.

    I assume there is nothing new in the smaller box that wasn’t in the bigger one, but we won’t know until the track listing comes out.
     
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  14. Randy Lane

    Randy Lane Forum Resident

    Location:
    Arizona USA
    The last entry in the contents listing illustrates the real "cheapness" of UMGs Beethoven anniversary collections, of which this and the massive 2020 box are not the only ones; they have done this at least two times before. The cheapness is that they gave no money, or possibly even any though or effort at all, to get a worthy recording of Christ on the Mount of Olives added to their catalogue but settled for Klee recording. Maybe I am a loner here, but I have never been able to tolerate that recording. It sounds nice, is not sloppy, and the singers never miss a note. But the experience is like being in a grand ballroom with the most magnificent lights and ornamentation, but it being pitch black with zero light. That is how matter-of-fact that recording is to my ears.
     
  15. Beholdentonoone

    Beholdentonoone Forum Resident

    I paid so much for BTHVN2020 I'll be pretty furious if this is almost the same contents for less than 1/2 the price!!!
     
  16. Wombat79

    Wombat79 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Out of curiosity I have done a more detailed comparison of the broad description of the new box vs what is in the larger box (which I have) and it is possible to work out by and large what is in and what is out.

    Symphonies: Discs 11-15 (HIP symphonies and choral fantasy) are missing. 2 versions of all symphonies included
    Concertos: All there
    Ballets etc: All there
    Operas: All there
    Keyboard works: All there including alternatives
    Chamber music: Same number of discs. Assume the attribution of all larger chamber music to the Amadeus Quartet - otherwise there are different versions. On that basis, I would say it’s all there.
    Lieder: All there
    Folk songs: All there
    Choral: 1 disc missing - I would guess one of the 2 versions of Missa Solemnis. Probably the Gardiner given the artist listing.
    Rarities: All there

    The historic performances, HIP versions, dvds and blu rays are all missing.

    So it looks like the new version is cds 1-10, 16-95 and 97-101 from the larger box. 11-15, 96 and 102 onwards (including DVD and blu ray) have been removed.
     
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  17. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

    Thanks for the detective work!
     
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  18. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Thank you, folks! All this information is very good to know. I missed the first release so I am considering this, although I have enough Beethoven in my collection.
     
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  19. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

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  20. albelTW

    albelTW Go beyond

    Location:
    Italy
    I would have gotten the Karajan Sibelius at that price for the bluray (I already have the CDs), but they don't seem to ship outside Belgium and Netherlands.
     
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  21. Gentian

    Gentian Forum Resident

    Location:
    Belgium
    Oops
    Sorry, I didn't know that
     
  22. zarzuela

    zarzuela Forum Resident

    Location:
    Madrid
    Teasing us in this way is unforgivable. ;) If I were in Belgium, I'd be putting my order in immediately.
     
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  23. Gentian

    Gentian Forum Resident

    Location:
    Belgium
    The 2020 box was sold in a price range of € 200-240, and this one costs € 166,99 at DGG Shop. I would buy it when the price sinks under € 100, a nice copy for our second home.
     
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  24. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

    It's interesting that they're doing another edition - I wonder if that means that the original is OOP or at least sold very well? I would imagine that the market for a 95 CD classical box set is rather small, especially when x number of people already have the bigger version.
     
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  25. Gentian

    Gentian Forum Resident

    Location:
    Belgium
    The 2020 box was a limited edition of 6500 copies worldwide, and seems to be OOP indeed. If I remember well, there weren't separate editions in German, English or French. So there are no 'less popular' copies left of a German (Bach 333) or French (Mozart 225) edition.
    What surprises me, is that the Beethoven Essential Edition is not that much cheaper than the big box, and almost twice as expensive as the Warner, Naxos and Brilliant editions. I presume we'll see a substantial price reduction pretty soon, if it isn't a strictly limited edition.
     
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