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Classical Corner Classical Music Corner (thread #16)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bronth, Sep 24, 2010.

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  1. Bronth

    Bronth Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Riga, Latvia
    I can add Cliburn and Schnabel.
     
  2. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

    Location:
    Fresno, California
    The Big Lonesome

    Possibly more of a question of perspective.

    I know that I haven't all that many recordings by Earl Wild. I noticed that he favored a number of composers for piano that were not recognized as "serious" in his time, that he had a monster technique, that he could take on the Hammerklavier like a champion, that he made one of the great Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto cycles.

    I think of Earl Wild as having more of a popular/populist side than Richter, much as Rubinstein knowingly catered to his audience. Tone really, really, really maters to me, and whatever Rubinstein may have lacked in pure technical address he more than made up for tonal beauty. I see that Gieseking is not on your list, I'd place him next to Moravec. Because I actively dislike Rudolph Serkin's tone, he would not be on my list. He's a lot like Schnabel—a better musician than Pianist. Because his son has such a ravishing tone quality and as he's such an adventurous performer of new music, I'd place Peter above Rudolph. Although Annie Fischer has her limits as regards breath of repertoire, she is so attuned to Beethoven that i'm giving her a bit more leeway than, say, Horowitz who manages to really irritate me most of the time. And I suspect that Martha Argerich is also "misunderestimated" and opinions as regards her legacy will probably go up after she's gone.
    I like Arrau as much as you, but Gilels probably wouldn't end up on my list. However, Cortot would, just for his crazy factor all by its lonesome.
     
  3. GreenDrazi

    GreenDrazi Truth is beauty

    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    FWIW, Wild didn’t get a single vote in Music magazine's recent poll of “pianists of the recorded era.”
     
  4. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

    Location:
    Fresno, California
    The 12-step program for 12-tone music.

    You probably won't find Anton Webern on anybody's top ten either.
     
  5. George P

    George P Down With The King

    Location:
    NYC
    I look forward to hearing more of Rubinstein's recordings, especially the earliest ones, which have impressed me the most. I can see him joining the others. He's one pianist (Kempff is another) that did not impress me at first but I have continued, as they have a lot of loyal advocates.

    He has yet to impress me beyond his Debussy. And even in Debussy, I generally prefer modern sound as I think the music greatly benefits from it.

    Haven't heard the son, but his Dad never fails to impress me.

    I stuck stricly to my own criteria, but even if I did Annie Fischer wouldn't make the list. The few composers that I have heard her in didn't impress me. Like Gulda, I consider her a Beethoven specialist, though a damn good one.

    If anything, I'd say Argerich is overrated. I'd say the same or Horowitz though.

    Gilels is the most recent addition to my list.

    Cortot was disqualified from my list due to the criteria, but I do love his pianism.
     
  6. evanft

    evanft Forum Resident

    Location:
    Taylor, MI, USA
    How is Mozart's Serenades for Orchestra performed by Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields conducted by Marriner on Phillips/Decca?
     
  7. George P

    George P Down With The King

    Location:
    NYC
    Haven't heard that one, but other ASMTF Mozart recordings I have heard have been great.
     
  8. yasujiro

    yasujiro Forum Resident

    Location:
    tokyo
    As for Serenades, Boskovsky's cycle on Decca is outstanding with better sonics than the Marriner's.
     
  9. Jay F

    Jay F New Member

    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I'm not sure I've heard that, but Mozart by Marriner is usually worth a listen. I enjoy their symphonies and piano concertos (w/Brendel).
     
  10. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    I recall that it was typically nice. There's a Furtwangler recording of the Tenth Wind Serenade that I recall as particularly nice, if a bit antiquated in sound.
     
  11. evanft

    evanft Forum Resident

    Location:
    Taylor, MI, USA
    I ordered a used copy for $18 from Amazon. It's the 7 CD set.
     
  12. George P

    George P Down With The King

    Location:
    NYC
    Dang, that's a nice price.
     
  13. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member


    Awesome. They are my favorites.
     
  14. evanft

    evanft Forum Resident

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    Taylor, MI, USA
  15. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

  16. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

    Location:
    Fresno, California
    Like An Angel Passing Through My Room

    Now listening to SACD of, for real, for the first time:

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    Am falling in love.

    PS: to George, the piano dude:

    Fell Madly in love with the Annie Fischer Beethoven Box.

    What can I say?

    What would be the point of being a music lover be if we didn't have our mad passions? :angel:
     
  17. George P

    George P Down With The King

    Location:
    NYC
    Oh sure, I know I have mine. Maria Joao Pires, Maria Tipo, Natan Brand, Cortot, Rosenthal, Pogorelich, Yudina, Kraus...I could go on and on....

    I didn't include Annie because she didn't fit the criteria. I had thought that I'd fallen for her too, until I heard her in other composers. Then I realized that I hadn't fallen for her, I had fallen for her Beethoven or perhaps, with her help, I had fallen for Beethoven.
     
  18. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    Now playing CD4 from this set for a first listen ...

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  19. Earlier ...


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  20. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
  21. George P

    George P Down With The King

    Location:
    NYC
    Fixed. :wave:

    Me:

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    Schubert
    Piano Sonatas
    D 959, 784, 157


    I do enjoy Lupu, but I can't help but feel that something is missing in his playing. Could be the somewhat distant, hazy sound or maybe it's his tendency to avoid coming to a full boil at climaxes. He reminds me a lot of Kempff.
     
  22. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    Reasons? Just curious. :cheers:
     
  23. George P

    George P Down With The King

    Location:
    NYC
    [​IMG]

    Now playing this, after his name came up today. The first track, a live performance of Melodie d'Orphee, is absolutely gorgeous.
     
  24. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

    Location:
    Fresno, California
    Song of the Siren

    . . .Paul Jacobs, Mieczysław Horszowski, Dinu Lipatti, how could I possibly forget Glenn Gould . . .

    I had already fallen for Beethoven's Piano Sonatas by the time I was 15—Thanks Schnabel :wave:—but this time I was 55, and she was an exotic Magyar woman . . .
     
  25. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    Her performance of the Bach Violin Concertos with the LA Chamber Orchestra was a disaster - with extremely fast tempo. Some of her other recordings I heard over the classical FM also sounded distant and cold ...
     
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