Yeah, I just have seen friendly discussions between online friends quickly turn into all out wars, when they could have been averted by polite, respectful disagreement. I'd hate for that to happen in our friendly thread here, whether with you, me or anyone else. Also, I would hate for Jay to blindly believe either you or I when it comes to Celibidache's Bruckner. Surely the best person to judge what Jay likes is Jay, right? Sure, I have seen many times that the one thing that works so well for one listener does not work at all for another. I have heard almost all of Wand's RCA set and all of Jochum's DG set. I enjoy them, but I don't love them at all, especially not the Wand. If these performances are close/closer to what Bruckner put in the score (and I don't doubt that they are) then that's an important fact to point out. However, as we have seen, this doesn't mean that the listener will necessarily enjoy it more than other, more radical interpretations. If I enjoy the much more radically interpreted Celibidache Bruckner or Richter's Schubert, then I have to be true with what I enjoy, right? Surely I can't think it wrong to enjoy these interpretations? As I stated earlier in a previous thread, I choose to believe that Bruckner (or Schubert, etc.) would rather me listen to those who interpret their works in ways that I love, rather than those whom interpret it in ways that I only somewhat enjoy (so that I rarely listen to their works) or not at all.