Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Feb 12, 2011.
The Muti Respighi is the best recording of that suite IMO.
Over the air waves today in my town....
Piano Concerto No. 27
with Colin Davis and Alicia de Larrocha.
A bit laid back, but it's still Mozart.
There are already quite a number of recordings of Tallis' works on Gimell.
I've never heard Joao Pires, but I like Uchida's Mozart a lot.
And I'd go for Lili Kraus.
youtube listening sample
I have had that one since it first came out ©1985 and it's always been one of the best to my ear!
Been enjoying this Stern box for several nights while making needledrops. He was a musician who always exuded warmth, to my ear. Some of the recordings are quite old but the music-making is superb throughout. This is the 4 LP box although I imagine it was issued on CD, as well.
obscure Piano Concertos on Melodiya
I enjoy doing needle drops myself. I take a lot of effort in cleaning the LPs well before starting, and using a new stylus, speed, etc.
I'm currently doing a bunch of Piano Concertos on Russian Melodiya records, stuff that never got issued outside of the USSR, nor ever appeared on CD. Very obscure stuff. Some of these compositions are outstanding, and recording quality can be very fine as well. It's the surface noise on these particular pressings that leave a little to be desired. But you can get lost in the music, my copies are all near mint and look unplayed. A collector in Italy has been buying them all from me over the last year, and I can't just let them go without having clean lossless backups on my music server. I saved front covers as scans as well. It is up to me to digitally save these composers from the scrap heap of history.
I might have nearly 100 albums on a hard drive that need track splitting, and some minor hand declicking before mastering to CD-R. Sometimes (in the middle of the night) if I can't sleep I get up and fix some cookies n' milk and I work on a few at a time.
Nice. It can be a real labor of love, can't it?
Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 29 in B-flat Major 'Hammerklavier', Op. 106 - John Ogdon [RCA Red Seal 1970, UK first LP pressing w/ 1K matricies, recorded September 1967, Produced by Peter Dellheim, Engineer: Alek Rosner, kind of a chintzy piano sound, not befitting of a powerhouse such as Ogdon -- but still a great performance.
So long as the music is worth revisiting, it's fine. I'd hate to find that in five years I had spent countless hours working on music that just sinply does not hold up. These LPs are pretty special. I might have the odd Archies album on my drive that seemed cool and rare at the moment, but might not seem as cool in another day or two.
The needlpe drops I have done in the past all come up with tagged compoer/performer/conductors. These Melodiya recordings never come up with correct info automatically. It's like nobody has ever needle dropped them. So I have to type in all the metadata by hand, and my typing skill level leaves something to be desired.
Here's how I look at it: I try not to think about the future use of the files or archiving or whatever; I just enjoy the listening and working on the recordings in the "now." Even if there's nothing of "value" beyond the pleasurable experience of listening to them and recording them digitally, I find it worthwhile just for the fun and joy I get while I'm doing it.
Yes, that is true, I've always been a tape recorder / record player kind of kid since I was a little boy. And I do enjoy it.
But I really like being out somewhere far from home and listening to something I did at some point earlier. And sometimes I am amazed at what a nice clean job was done, and that the music sounds better than I even remembered it sounding.
I'm looking over my scans folders for some pix to show. But here is the text I have either written for my meta data tagging, or copied from distant composer sites that specialize in these kinds of works. Here is a small sample of recent drops I did from LPs of obscure composers of piano concertos.
P. Vladigerov: Piano Concerto No. 4, Op. 48
P. Vladigerov piano
Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra, N. Rakhlin conductor
S. Nasidze: Piano Concerto No. 2 in E flat major
Tengiz Amiredzhibi piano
USSR State Symphony Orchestra, Z. Khurodze conductor
M. Partshaladze: Piano Concerto in A major, Op. 12
Lazar Berman piano
Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra, E. Svetlanov conductor
A. Balanchivadze - Piano Concerto No. 4, 12" 33rpm - Alexei Cherkasov. Gennady Provatorov conductor. very good STEREO recording
A. Balanchivadze - Piano Concerto No. 3, 10" 33rpm - Melodiya
N. Karnitskaya - Piano Concerto in D minor, Beatrice Fridman piano, North-Ossetian Symphony Orchestra, P. Yadykh conductor. 10" 33rpm - Melodiya
G. Moushel - Piano Concerto No. 2 in a minor, 10" 33rpm - Melodiya, Rudolph Kerer piano, Moscow State Phil. Society State Symphony Orch. K. Kondrashin conductor
10" LP cover scans
I tried to go and add cover scans to my previous post but my time ran out.
Anyway, here are a few nice pieces from Russia's Melodiya label as mentioned above.
The last two are just things I came across that I thought were nice. The Rostroprovitch Cello 10" might be the first ever issue of that record. I would think that that work would be on CD, perhaps: Rostroprovitch - The Russian Years box set on EMI.
I guess it could be fun and exciting to put some of the old records on CD.
Hafta have some high end filtering and enhancing hardware or computer program.
In a way I miss "dropping the needle" but given the ease of care and storage with Cd's I'll stick with "laser scans".
It hasta be......sounds like a ton of labours work and patients.
My hats off to him for having that kinda dedication to his music!!
I LOVE the old LP covers.....the art is so classic to the time they were pressed!
PERSONALLY I think that ANY old recording previously on record that's remastered to CD should have the exact art with the CD it had on the original record sleeve!!
The Piano Concertos are really not so much work, 1,2 or 3 movements is all that it needs broken down to. Very quick editing. And I erase a few ticks or clicks by hand which is also easy. No filtering at all ever. Plus a bunch of them are 10" LPs, so they run only about 30min. total. Nice short and sweet.
I think what makes it fun is either having some really rare ones to work with, and having them be in clean enough shape that they come out nice without having to do much work. But thanks for kind words on my efforts. I may be the only one out there saving these to digital capture. And it does look like if they are not out on CD by now, they ain't coming out. Digital downloads do not look likely either.
And I agree about artwork, it is a part of the history of the recording.
Those Sony CD box sets that were just brought up, should really have booklets that have each and every original front album cover included.
If the record hiss and the click click click can be eliminated....I'll bet they could sound really incredible!
It would be soooo kewl to take some of the really old stuff 1900-1920 and remaster it clean and full sound quality to CD.
In other words....bring it up to today's standards....unrealistic I know.
Yale Collection of Historical Sound Recordings
This sounds kinda awful!
Should be getting the 6 lot today......the other 2 by the end of the week.
MAN......this CD collecting is addicting!!
(Closing in on 290 Classical now)
Just a personal note about the Mozart Piano Sonatas mentioned above. I find that the Violin Sonatas are sometimes a better Mozart piano experience than the Sonatas. Then again it could just be me, I usually play Perlman/Barenboim. Let us know what you decide and how you like it. I just ordered Uchida's Piano Concertos. There are many options and opinions (of course) regarding the Sonatas and Piano Concertos. I have yet to hear a version of the Concertos that wasn't interesting in some way.
These have been out in the EU for some time now, I have the Reiner Wagner set. Cheap and cheerful and great value. No mastering credits at all although they say 24bit.
Thanks for the info, still trying to come up with a final order to place.
Some of them are in stock at Amazon. Prices range between roughly equivalent to Presto and somewhat higher.
I found that they were a bit cheaper on Amazon France.
I have to agree (from what I heard) that the Violin Sonatas with Perlman and Barenboim is a very good choice. Thanks for reminding me of it. Nice DG box is available. It will be in the queue to buy.
So far as the Piano Sonatas are concerned, I'm leaning towards the Pires but haven't pulled the trigger yet. The Piano Concertos I bought over time by a handful of different artists rather than as a boxed set (various discs featuring Perahia, Uchida, I Musici, Brendel, Serkin, Bilson with Gardiner's English Baroque).
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