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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Oct 27, 2014.

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  1. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    No, Stuart's Decca box uses the 24 bit remastering from the box that preceded it, the Philips box with the concertos. Yours has the original mastering.
     
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  2. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Ah, I see. So my guess was wrong. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  3. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    No problem.
     
  4. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Any marked differences in sound quality between the 2 masterings as far as you know?
     
  5. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    The last time I checked they were close.
     
  6. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    You can sample the first minute in both masterings here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/wwuqbs

    The first 55 seconds is the mastering you have, the rest is the remaster.
     
  7. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Thanks, but my computer speakers are way too crappy (they cost me under 10 euros the pair years ago...) to do a proper comparison.
     
  8. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    You're welcome.

    I compared on my stereo (I never compare on my computer speakers either) and the original mastering sounds more open on top to me. The remaster sounds a bit muffled and some of the room ambiance is missing.

    IMO, you own the best mastering available for this set.
     
  9. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    To be clear, this is the best sounding version?

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  10. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    No, this is:

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  11. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    YIKES! There are two copies available on Amazon: one sells for $639.99 and the other for $1011.53!! :eek: Do those prices include a seance and live performance by him?


    Has anyone heard this version?

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  12. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    This is pretty common on analog phone lines ...
     
  13. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I listen to music on my computer from time to time. I still prefer the big sound of a conventional stereo system ... :righton:
     
  14. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    This kind of music no longer appeals to me, so I put this disc up for sale on Amazon!

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  15. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    NP...perfect for this blustery, frigid evening. Sorry the pic is so big...
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  16. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    Change the "s1600" in the link to "s600" to resize it:

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  17. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    Actually, sending audio by telephone line was more common than you might think, particularly in the early days of electric recording. Remember, recording equipment was big, heavy, and temperamental--it wasn't a matter of packing a couple of mikes and a few reels of tape. Everything was direct to disk, so recording meant having a recording lathe, enough wax blanks to cover the expected recording time in 4-minute increments plus any extra takes, an oven to keep the blanks warm until they went onto the lathe (if you've ever heard a 78 develop a high-pitched whistle toward the end, that's a sign the blank wasn't warm enough when put on the lathe), heavy tube electronics (no transistors in those days), and on and on. Far easier, cheaper, and probably more reliable to rent a high quality dedicated line from the phone company and send the signal from a remote location to a central studio.

    As I'm recalling things, the recording of Beethoven's Ninth Sym. led by Albert Coates in the year after electric recording made its debut was recorded in three different locations with the signal sent to two different studios via telephone line over the course of several days. For that matter, I think the experimental high-fidelity and stereo recordings by Stokowski from the '30s involved piping the signal from Philadelphia to Camden via telephone lines.
     
  18. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Or better yet, 400:

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  19. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    1600 is for pipe organs (and 0.2 is for clavichords)
     
  20. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I think every man and his cousin who is into baroque has this recording, myself included ...
     
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  21. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Senior Member

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    It won't be long until Neil Young records an album over phone lines. "Phoning It In" will take on a new meaning.
     
  22. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    Nope. I have 8 versions of the Goldberg Variations (including harpsichord, piano, harp and guitar) but not that one.
     
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  23. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    I don't have it either. I have a number of piano recordings and one for harpsichord by Gilbert.
     
  24. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    FYI, I just was looking through my Schnabel Mozart CDs and discovered that Pearl (GEM 0104) contains the last two movements of D 845 from a 1945 Armed Forces Radio Service Series broadcast. He plays manically in the finale.
     
  25. Walter H

    Walter H Santa's Helper

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    Looking forward to this one for next year. Where available they have used the original 3-track masters. Odyssey LPs dropped the center channel!
     
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