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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Jan 7, 2015.

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  1. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    How is the box new? Was it remastered again? I thought it was 8-CD in the last iteration ...
     
  2. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    The DG box Ferenc Fricsay – Complete Recordings on Deutsche Grammophon, Vol.1: Orchestral Works (45 CDs) also has a few recordings with Annie Fischer.
     
  3. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    I didn't get it.
     
  4. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Her Beethoven PC 3 with him is the best that I have heard.
     
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  5. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Really? I did not know Annie Fischer had recorded with DG? Did she ever record works of JS Bach?
     
  6. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Is this the box you have?

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  7. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    No, I don't have that. I have the older EMI issues of most of that stuff.
     
  8. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    She recorded these works for DG with Ferenc Fricsay/Bavarian State Orchestra:
    • Mozart: Rondos for Piano and Orchestra, K382; K386
    • Beethoven: Piano Concerto 3, Op.37
     
  9. scompton

    scompton Forum Resident

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  10. Walter H

    Walter H Santa's Helper

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    The best recording of this piece IMO. Issued on LP in mono, and I believe this Artist Profile was the first stereo issue.
     
  11. scompton

    scompton Forum Resident

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    TheClassicShop has a few on other labels that may be public domain, ICA, Documents, Guild Historical and Archiphon. The oddest is the Brandenburg Cooncerto No. 5 in D, BWV 1050, conducted by Klemperer.

    http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Sea...cboFormat=any&cboCategory=any&cboCriteria=any

    Three of those search results aren't Annie Fischer.
     
  12. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    I've never investigated Annie Fischer--perhaps it's time I did!



    It's hard to go wrong with this combo of musicians! Very good sound as well.

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    alankin1 Forum Resident

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  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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  15. alankin1

    alankin1 Forum Resident

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    Contents:

    1. Jascha Horenstein

    Mahler: Symphony No. 8/Barker/Hatt/Giebel/Meyer/Watts/Neate/Orda/Van Mill/BBC Chorus/LSO stereo

    2. Evegeny Mravinsky

    Shostakovich: Symphony No. 8/Leningrad Philharmonic stereo

    3. Emil Gilels

    Scarlatti: Sonatas K.141, 27, 125, 247, 533; Schumann: Piano Sonata No.1 Op.11; Prokofiev: Toccata Op.11 minor; Tchaikovsky: 3 Pieces from 'Six morceaux Op.19; Bach: Aria variata all maniera italiana BWV989

    4. Arturo Toscanini

    Beethoven: Missa Solemnis/Milanov/Thorborg/Von Pataky/Moscona/BBCSO & Chorus

    5. Sviatoslav Richter

    Chopin: Ballade No.3 Op.47, Scherzo No.4 Op.54, 4 Mazurkas Op.24, Barcarolle Op.60, Debussy: 10 Preludes from Book 1

    6. Sviatoslav Richter

    Chopin: Andante spiniato & Grande Polonaise Op.22; Liszt: Piano Concertos Nos 1 & 2; Hungarian Fantasy S123/LSO/Kondrashin

    7. Carlo Maria Giulini

    Mussorgsky/Ravel: Pictures at an Exhibition, Tchaikovsky: Symphony No.6/Philharmonia

    8. Mstislav Rostropovich

    Shostakovich: Cello Concerto No.1/Leningrad Philharmonic/Rozhdestvensky; Schumann: Cello Concerto/LSO/Britten; Haydn: Trio XV:16 (with Emil Gilels & Leonid Kogan)

    9. Dennis Brain

    Beethoven: Quintet Op.16 for Wind Ensemble; Dukas: Villanelle; Marais: Le Basque; Mozart: Quintet K.407 Brahms: Tro Op.40

    10.Igor Markevitch

    Stravinsky: Rite of Spring, Tchaikovsky: Francesca da Rimini, Mussorgsky: Songs (with Vishnevskaya) /LSO stereo

    11.Janet Baker

    Schubert Lieder/Johnson/Isepp/Parsons stereo

    12.Clifford Curzon

    Liszt: Piano Sonata in B minor; Sonetto 104 del Petrarca; Berceuse; Valse oubliee; Haydn: Andante & Variations Hob.XV11.6; Schubert: 3 Impromptus D899/2; D899/3; D899/4

    13.David Oistrakh

    Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto/RPO/Del Mar; Brahms Violin Concerto/LPO/Sargent

    14.Arthur Rubinstein

    Chopin: Piano Concerto No.2/Philharmonia/Giulini; Chopin: Ballade No.1 Op.23; Mazurka Op.56/3; Scherzo Op.54/Etude Op.10/6; Etude Op.10/8; Etude Op.10/9; Andante spianato & Grande Polonaise brillante Op.22

    15.Pierre Monteux

    Cherubini: Anacreon Overture, Wagner: Siegfried Idyll, Debussy: Iberia, Schumann: Symphony No.4, Berlioz: Marche Hongroise/BBCSO & LSO

    16.Sir Thomas Beecham

    Chabrier: Gwendoline Overrture & Espana; Mozart: Divertimento K.131 (excerpts); Delius: Brigg Fair; Sains-Saens: Le Rouet d'Omphale, Berlioz: Royal Hunt & Storm; Massenet: La Vierge: Sommeil de la vierge; Debussy: L'Enfant prodique: Cortege et Air de danse/RPO

    17.Wilhelm Kempff

    Schubert: Piano Sonata D566; Impromptu D935/2, Brahms: 4 Ballades Op.10; Romance Op.118/5; Intermezzo Op.118/6; Intermezzo Op.76/4; Schumann: Piano Sonata No.2 Op.22 stereo

    18.Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli

    Scarlatti: Piano Sonatas K11,332,172: Beethoven: Piano Sonata No.32 Op.111; Clementi: Piano Sonata Op.12/1, Chopin: Piano Sonata No.2 Op.35

    19.Annie Fischer

    Beethoven: Piano Sonata ' Moonlight' Op.27/2 & 32 Variations WoO8O; Chopin: Scherzo No.3 Op.39; Mozart: Piano Sonata No.14 K.457; Kodaly: Dances of Marosszek; Haydn: Andante & Variations Hob XV11.6 stereo/mono

    20.Gennady Rozhdestvensky

    Shostakovich Symphony No.4; Katerina Ismailova Suite/Philharmonia stereo
     
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  16. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    I read this opinion today.

    “It says something about Haydn’s aesthetic vision that the best performances of his symphonies, by and large, have all been on modern instruments, whether Szell and Cleveland, Bernstein with various orchestras, Mackerras and St. Lukes, the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra–even Klemperer or Scherchen.”


    I know some here on this forum promote the period instrument approach, but I have come down on the side of modern instruments for his symphonies. I do like Adam Fischer also, but not to the exclusion of other conductors. For instance, Bruno Walter has a delightful recording of the Oxford symphony No. 98 with the Orchestre De La Societe Des Concerts Du Conservatoire in Paris 1938.

    I have probably given more of my time listening to period instrument approaches to his symphonies than to my preferred performances – trying to decipher the appeal of period instrument approach. For example, I have been listening to Christopher Hogwood’s period instrument Haydn box. I don’t have a quarrel with his conducting. But the sound eventually puts me off. There are too few instruments for my taste (despite what an American professor told Hogwood about Haydn’s forces). The sound is too lean. Then we come to the sound of the lead violinist. It grates. If I had been Haydn, I would have given up composing after the first 24 symphonies:) if my lead violinist sounded like that.
     
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  17. WHitese

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    I braved the elements to get this CD from USPS..Travelled from the fatherland!

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  18. Fafner88

    Fafner88 Forum Resident

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    I totally agree with you. In the past I enjoyed some HIP recordings of Mozart and Haydn, but nowadays I just can't. I can't stand the shrill vibratoless string-quart-sized violins, the trash-cans tympani, the out of balance brass and the unmusical and metronomic conducting. listening to Bernstein with the Wiener PO or Karajan and the BPO in Haydn just sounds like a different composer than what you hear with Hogwood et al., the HIP orchestras just sound like school bands in comparison (and I don't care whether it's 'historically accurate' or not, I only care whether it sounds good).
     
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  19. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    You didn't mention the source of the quote; it was David Hurwitz who wrote that in his review of the George Szell Haydn Symphonies set on the Classics Today site:
    http://www.classicstoday.com/review/reference-recording-szells-irreplaceable-haydn-symphonies/

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    That said, I love my HIP Haydn sets by Christopher Hogwood, Roy Goodman (though the sound is too spacey), Trevor Pinnock, Frans Brüggen, Bruno Weil, and Sigiswald Kuijken, as well as the non-HIP recordings by George Szell (excellent), Colin Davis and a few others - but not Herbert von Karajan or Leonard Bernstein :)
     
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  20. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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  21. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Personally, I only have problems with Beethoven Symphonies performed on period instruments, as those works should have big sound IMO. As Haydn was a transition figure between the baroque and the classical periods, I feel that I can live with the leaner sound of an HIP ensemble performing his symphonies ...
     
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  22. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    Great set.
     
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  23. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    oh please :rolleyes:
     
  24. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Sorry, man. Just a joke. And was intended to be at Hurwitz's expense.
     
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  25. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I wonder who has a larger circle of followers, David Hurwitz or Norman Lebrecht? :winkgrin:
     
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