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Classical Corner Classical Music Corner (thread #65)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Jan 7, 2015.

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  1. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Why the hate for David Hurwitz? I see it here and elsewhere. Maybe it's because I don't live in the U.S., but I don't understand it. OK, he's often very outspoken in his reviews and I sometimes don't agree with him at all, but in my opinion that's no reason to dislike the guy. I must be missing something.
     
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  2. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Did my joke about Hurwitz imply hate for him? That surely was not my intention.
     
  3. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    No, but you added that it was intended to be at Hurwitz's expense and that doesn't sound very positive. Anyway, my question was a general one. I've often seen people saying negative things about him and I was wondering why - as I said I must be missing something.
     
  4. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    I think what you are missing is that different people have different opinions of things. I am sure there are many things you love that others hate and vice versa.
     
  5. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Of course people have different opinions of things, but that's not the point of my question. What I meant was that I've seen people attack Hurwitz - not so much his reviews and opinions, which would be OK, of course, but him personally and I was wondering why. What's he done or said that antagonized people so much?
     
  6. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Ok, thanks for clarifying. I guess that would be a question best answered by those he has antagonized. Personally, I find his reviews funny.
     
  7. MC Rag

    MC Rag Forum Resident

    I'm more of a rock man and don't contribute much to the classical thread but I feel compelled to praise a cd I picked up in a charity (thrift) shop the other day: Richter - Schumann's Symphonische Etuden OP.13 (Studio Recording Salzburg 1971). Never have I heard such a deep whilst both powerful and delicate piano rendition. Richter takes is to the edge frequently but just as you feel as though he's about to lose control he drags it back from the brink each time. A truly stunning album. As soon as I finished listening for the first time I checked out samples from all other pianists I could find who had recorded these Symphonische Etudes but none compare, they all seem to romanticise the piece too much and none have the power of Richter.

    This is the disc - A Five Star Recommendation from MC :)

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  8. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    That's why I posted a general question without quoting your post; it was not aimed at someone in particular. I was hoping that maybe somebody would be able to answer it. And yes, some of his reviews can be funny.
     
  9. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    That great performance has been issued many times. It can be found for around $5 new on amazon on this CD:

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  10. Fafner88

    Fafner88 Forum Resident

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    I don't always agree with Hurwitz, but I like his straight no-bullsh*t approach. Has anybody read his stuff on the history of string vibrato? He did a really amazing scholarship on the subject, and completely refuted some of the HIP orthodoxy concerning orchestral vibrato, like Roger Norrington's fantasy that orchestras begun using constant vibrato only after WW2.
     
  11. Fafner88

    Fafner88 Forum Resident

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    But at least the later Haydn is closer to Beethoven than to baroque, don't you think? In my opinion, pieces like the London symphonies just don't work with baroque sonorities.
     
  12. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Performing the late Haydn Symphonies by an HIP ensemble is similar to Karajan or Klemperer conducting the Brandenburg Concertos using a full-sized orchestra on modern instruments - not the best arrangement to be sure. At least Marriner did it mostly correct with his ASMIF ...
     
  13. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    I found this on e-classical.com in a 24 bit/192kHz FLAC for $19.98, so I bought it. Sounds great--considerably more open and dynamic than the MP3s, plus I have access to individual tracks!
     
  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    MP3 music is garbage. I ripped all my CD's at 24/192 in the WMA format ...
     
  15. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    Actually, the MP3s didn't sound all that bad, but the hi-res FLAC is way better. I just wish I could play them through my Esoteric's USB input rather than my Oppo's, but the Esoteric won't play directly from an external drive--has to be connected to a computer, and since they are in different rooms, that won't happen anytime soon!
     
  16. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I use an external DAC and my Dell desktop is in the same stereo rack (made by the now defunct CWD - Custom Woodwork Designs) so running the USB from my desktop into the external DAC is easy ...
     
  17. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Me too, have two copies of the Heilidor [U.S. reissue of DGG originals] reissue of the LvB third PC.
     
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  18. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

  19. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing DVD2 from the following twofer for a first watch/listen ...

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  20. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    DVD2 is even better and is nothing short of a classical music journey through the second half of the twentieth century, as narrated by Richter himself. The interactions and partnerships Richter had with the likes of Munch, Britten, Karajan, Gould, Rubinstein, fischer-dieskau and fellow Russian artists Kagan, Rostropovich and Gavrilov, were just awesome. Richter's description of Karajan as stubborn was right on the mark. The Mozart piano duet by Britten and Richter was very enjoyable ...
     
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  21. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Glad you enjoyed it! And I am so glad that it is back in print, with better video quality than ever. A truly special documentary about a very special pianist.
     
  22. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    PriceLes$ was an odd little budget label from back when CD was still a pretty new proposition. I don't think it lasted very long, but some interesting material (as far as I can tell, mostly or all reissues) popped out on it. For instance, I have a couple of two-piano recordings on that label by Veri and Jamanis that are really quite good, and I also have a Bruckner 4th with Furtwangler and the VPO. More to the point for this discussion, PriceLes$ issued at least one other Annie Fischer disc, Schumann's Fantasie and Kreisleriana on D18894.
     
  23. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    In the disc player tonight…one of my all time favorites. There is just nothing like this performance of Song of the Nightingale.
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  24. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    Well, welcome anyhow, and thanks for the recommendation! If you follow the thread for a while, you'll find that Richter is quite widely admired here.
     
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  25. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    How about that Mozart piano duet (or piano on four hands) between Richter and Britten? Is it available on some CD?
     
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