Classical Corner Classical Music Corner (thread #67)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Feb 20, 2015.

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  1. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    I was not previously familiar with this composer, but I like the disc so far. His music quite modern but still fairly accessible.

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  2. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    BIS is known to record a good number of "modern" classical music, which I don't listen to or collect ...
     
  3. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    Do you shun it simply because it's modern?
     
  4. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Pretty much. A number of years ago, I was at some concert at Carnegie Hall and experienced the performance of a modern piece, which was nothing but percussion. Grieg, Sibelius, Mahler, Elgar, Vaugh-Williams and Strauss were the only composers in my classical music collection that lived through part of the twentieth century. I much prefer listening to the Beatles, Rolling Stones or Elton John than listening to "modern" classical music ...
     
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  5. Bachtoven

    Bachtoven Forum Resident

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    Remember, all of those composers were "modern" at one point...so was Bach! ;) I used to listen to extreme contemporary music almost exclusively--Xenakis, early Penderecki, et al, but the older I get, the more melody I need. I'm OK with dissonance, but I need a little melody and recognizable structure these days.
     
  6. john greenwood

    john greenwood Well-Known Member

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    Every year on Yom Kippur in an arrangement for cello and organ. In every synagogue I've been to (as a Reform Jew). And it remains the high point of the service for me.
     
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  7. john greenwood

    john greenwood Well-Known Member

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    I have the Machaut as part of a three disc set from Brilliant. I have the Serenades (but not the Dances) in the big Abbado box.
     
  8. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    Thanks for the tip. I'm in USA. With the strong dollar the Amazon Italy prices are very good. The MDT price on the box was $102 after VAT deduction. The Amazon Italy would be about $95. These prices are for Decca Mono years box. I never considered going to the European Anazon cites but now I shall.
     
  9. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    Have you tried Birtwistle? Or Takemitsu?
     
  10. John S

    John S Forum Resident

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    If Harrison Birtwistle's (what a great name!) Tragodia in the EMI 20th Century Masterpieces box is typical I don't think coopmv will become a convert. Takemitsu could be another story, but I doubt it.

     
  11. EasterEverywhere

    EasterEverywhere Forum Resident

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    I have a few.I find the digital Archive LP boxes are much harder to find.The Hasting's where I live have either run out of classical vinyl,or have not restocked the drawers in months,depending on the store.One has this 1959 Archive introduction to stereo sampler that has been sitting there for months.I have debated whether to go back and get it.

    I think those Hasting's drawers were my last gasp of buying classical vinyl,after spending the last 25 years building a big classical record library.I see no way of getting many more,unless I move or travel.I have never seen the thrift stores and estate sales so lacking in any records at all.I am the admin at the Classical Music on Vinyl Facebook group,and I add three or four new people a week.A lot are new collectors.The interest in classical records is growing considerably,but it will always be a fraction of what every other genre is.
     
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  12. EasterEverywhere

    EasterEverywhere Forum Resident

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    Yeah,but they brought back the"Lp" symbol and the "Guaranteed High Fidelity".It's great seeing that again! :edthumbs:
     
  13. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    The 3-CD set by BC is excellent, though I think this recording I just ordered is more recent. Machaut was a big deal in his time ...
     
  14. 5-String

    5-String Forum Resident

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    Or Tavener, or Part, or Hovhaness, man, there is so much variety in modern music, there is something for everyone, not all modern music is dissonant or chaotic.
     
  15. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    No. But I have heard of them ...
     
  16. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Everything that is priced in Euro is a good deal these days and will remain so for a while ... :righton:
     
  17. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    On this side of the pond, especially on the Continent some people are not too happy with the way the dollar/euro exchange rate is going.
     
  18. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    No doubt when it comes to tech products, which are mostly priced in Dollar. The likes of BMW and MB will be raking in major profits. I own quite a good number of European stocks and expect them to do well ...
     
  19. George P

    George P Forum Pianophile Thread Starter

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    Now enjoying the 1930s recordings from the above box, from the final 3 CDs. The transfers are great, no excessive NR here. He also sounds more animated in these earlier recordings.

    CD 15 has an interview with the pianist and recordings of him playing his own compositions, including a concerto, a solo work and a number of songs for piano and soprano.
     
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  20. scompton

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    It's funny, I'm pretty much the opposite. I never bought that much modern classical in the past because I wanted to try before buying. My entree was percussion works which I've always loved. About 5 or 6 years ago, I started to use steaming services and discovers I loved a lot of modern classical. In the last couple of years, the vast majority of my classical purchases have been either modern or early music. Other than boxed sets, the only baroque, classical or romantic music I've bought have been very discounted.
     
  21. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    Remember, too, however, that until very recently, like middle of the 20th c. or so, the hermetically sealed compartments of "classical" and "popular" music did not exist, or at least were not so tight. "Classical" composers wrote music designed to please a general audience, and "popular" music was quite adaptable to the demands of the more "serious" concert; try all those works built on the Follie d'Espagne or Beethoven's assorted variations on tunes that were popular in his day (Ich bin der Schneider Kakadu--a cockatoo, crying out loud?). Bach wrote not only for nobility but also every week for general church congregations and also for the habitues of coffee houses. (He also isn't necessarily the best example, since he was considered rather behind the times in his day, but that's another matter.) And "classical" singers often crossed over into "popular" idioms, and nobody thought a thing of it--Caruso or Gigli in Neapolitan songs, John McCormack in Irish ditties, etc., etc., etc. ad infinitum. Remember how the Boston Pops broadcasts not infrequently would incorporate arrangements of popular tunes, right up to and including the Beatles? There, I've made my obligatory reference. ;)

    In my not terribly original view, the devil came when "classical" music wandered off into Serial/AtonalLand (putting immense demands for technical knowledge on an audience whose level of technical knowledge was in decline with the general spread of mechanical music reproduction) just as "popular" music wandered off into an idiom not readily adaptable to presentation in the "serious" concert hall, read "classic rock." "Classical" and "popular" music became exclusive domains, to the impoverishment of both.

    As to dissonance, you'll find more than plenty of it in music going all the way back to medieval times. But I think dissonance is like garlic, a powerful spice that, used judiciously, adds tang and savor but that can overpower when abused. I'm certainly no "modern music" specialist, but all too many works after the first third of the 20th c. or so seem to to originate with "cooks" whose practice is to toss in several full garlic cloves and then stir a few other ingredients in out of a sense of obligation.
     
  22. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing CD9 - Schumann and Lalo Cello Concertos by Janos Starker and Stanislaw Skrowaczewski with the LSO from the following box for a first listen ...

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  23. alankin1

    alankin1 Forum Resident

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    Joseph Haydn – String Quartets Op.76/1, Op.76/2 "Fifths", Op.76/3 "Emperor"
    — Takacs Quartet (London / Decca Records)

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    From a big pile of classical (and a few jazz) CDs I bought yesterday at an estate sale for about a dollar a disc. I got there too late for any box sets (which included Philips Mozart boxes), but I still found enough. The previous owner seemed like an interesting person: he had books on birds, art, and fly fishing, a number of grandfather clocks and a pile of horologist journals, pipes, photo developing equipment and even some curling (the 'sport') pins. Felt a bit strange walking through his house...
     
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  24. ubertrout

    ubertrout Forum Resident

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    I stopped by their "retail store" after an open rehearsal at Tanglewood. It's really just the lobby of their warehouse with a few racks of examples of stuff they have in the warehouse, but it's mostly a place to e-mail them an order and then pick it up. I don't think losing their store is a major concern, it was always a sidenote (and only open on Saturdays, anyway).

    Their current location is quite convenient to both the Mass Pike and the giant Lee Outlet Mall, so perhaps they're decamping for even cheaper real estate?
     
  25. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing CD10, the last CD - Tchaikovsky Variations on a Rococo Theme and Saint-Saens Cello Concerto by Janos Starker and Antal Dorati with the LSO from the following box for a first listen ...

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