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Complete Chicago IV coming ("Chicago at Carnegie Hall")*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by jmpatrick, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:49 AM.

  1. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Cambridge, MA
    Steven Wilson did a long interview for Bob Lefsetz' podcast recently. And in that interview, he indicated that the band didn't like his mix/remix. In other places, the band has indicated they were happy with the CTA remix. It's pathetic, but there you go.
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  2. Chest Pains Productions

    Chest Pains Productions Forum Resident

    Anyone that actually likes or thinks the CTA remix is anything but dog poop needs a 2x4 upside the head.
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  3. :crazy::crazy::crazy:
    They are really nuts!
  4. dkurtis

    dkurtis sonofthefather

    That dog will bite youuu.
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  5. indigovic

    indigovic Forum Resident

    North Bend, WA
    First I saw the product image and counted 16 CDs, and I was all “Oh, holy crap!!!”

    And then I saw the words “engineer Tim Jessup,” and I was all “Oh, holy crap.”
  6. This is sad. I am in the target audience for this set, the right age the right income and I love Chicago. But no way will I even think about buying this set.

  7. Pianoman99

    Pianoman99 Forum Resident

    The only explanation could be a hearing loss of the band members.
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  8. Onkster515

    Onkster515 Well-Known Member

    Des Moines, IA
    So: what were they chanting in that break in “So Much to Say”? I could never quite hear it clearly. Something about the war.
  9. John Harchar

    John Harchar Forum Resident

    New Jersey
    Think I'll just find a way to get a hold of Someday and Elegy to limit the Jessup exposure and just meld them into my 4 CD set playlist. Really only need one version of each song done during the run (would've loved if they'd done Liberation as the last song on the last night, but was not to be...)
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  10. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

    Chicago, IL, US
    I didn't know it until recently, but a few other 1971 shows have turned up where they played it.
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  11. Humbuster

    Humbuster Big hat, no cattle

    My feeling as well. I was really looking forward to this release. Oh well, I will just bank the funds for the much anticipated Who’s Next box.

    Who knows, maybe we all are wrong and the Chicago box will be fine. I guess, we can dream.
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  12. g.z.

    g.z. Forum Resident

    This new release should enlighten.
    But I see bummer.
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  13. tspit74

    tspit74 Forum Resident

    Woodridge, IL, USA
    My favorite live album of all time. But if Jessup is involved, no deal.

    I thought the previous 4 disc Rhino was hard on the ears. I never touch it. Still got my 3 disc Columbia and original vinyl, both of which sound great. I love the kazoos and the warts.

    That live box that Jessup did is the single most unlistenable thing I own, and I own A LOT. Running Terry Kath thru auto tune, compression, and multiple amp farm simulations simultaneously??? The guy is insane and poison in any studio.
  14. Chest Pains Productions

    Chest Pains Productions Forum Resident

    What show/track was this done on?
  15. jvs52

    jvs52 Forum Resident

    Possibly Free form guitar:D
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  16. jlf

    jlf Custom Title Unlocked

    United States
    According to the US Inflation Calculator,

    If in 1974 you purchased an item for $9.88, then in 2021, the item would cost $52.71.
    The comparison isn’t quite indicative of anything other than costs have gone up. In fact, to be getting the entire concert run for 3x that amount almost feels like a bargain. :laugh:
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  17. If I Can Dream_23

    If I Can Dream_23 Forum Resident

    United States
    Oh I've been bit by Chicago years ago. They remain one of my favorite artists. So I have always welcomed the bite. :laugh:

    While I still adore my 1971 lp set, I'm grateful a set as vast and attractive as this is finally seeing the release it deserves!

    Whatever warts may come with this in regards to the actual sound quality is a miniscule price to pay to finally have a set like this. I'm about the music anyway, not just the sound quality.

    That said, I indeed passed on the 50th Anniversary Remix of the debut. But that was simply because I already own several previous versions of it (in what was, in my opinion, better sound quality).

    But being bit by my favorite artists music is something I have welcomed for 40 some years. :)

    Heck, I'm just grateful such physical sets are still being made in celebration of these great albums a half century later. If you had told me sets like this would be made of all these albums 50 years down the road back in 1971, I might have thought the person was crazy. Why not be grateful?
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021 at 2:23 PM
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  18. idledreamer

    idledreamer Still idle

    Boston, MA
    I'm a Chicago fan but will give this one a hard pass, as I scored the original vinyl box a few years back for $5 (missing book, but records all VG/VG+). Been enjoying it ever since!
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  19. Grant

    Grant Just chillin'!

    United States
    Sorry! That abomination of the Tim Jessup remix is not music!
  20. If I Can Dream_23

    If I Can Dream_23 Forum Resident

    United States
    Oh it is indeed music. Great music. It's just that whatever he did to it is not to my taste, that's for sure.

    I'm not a fan of his work, from those projects I've heard. Thus the reason I simply passed.

    Still, the bottom line is that my love for the music of Chicago and the release of these much deserved sets always weighs greater than any one name on the engineer credits. He is neither here nor there to the music the band made together those nights at Carnegie Hall. Regardless of what he may try to do to it afterward. :)

    Ultimately it is always about the music. For me.

    Why let whatever approach he is choosing to take with Chicago's music affect my love of the music itself or for the set itself?

    The more time I were to spend losing sleep about what Tim Jessup is doing at a console somewhere is less time I have to enjoy the music of Chicago! Or any artist for that matter...

    As stated, I'm just grateful we are even seeing a set like this after all this time. How picky must I be about something good that I didn't even expect to see in the first place? :)

    We all may love a mile but I'm happy to just to take an inch these days.

    There's probably a bad joke in there somewhere so I better stop... :laugh:
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021 at 4:05 PM
  21. puffyrock2

    puffyrock2 Forum Resident

    Hoping we'll get a full song or two on Spotify early so we can assess the damage.
  22. Musical Chairs

    Musical Chairs Forum Resident

    Well, I'm not going to get this but its release did finally get me to order an old vinyl set. I never see these in the wild and have always hesitated to purchase one online sight unseen.
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  23. Chest Pains Productions

    Chest Pains Productions Forum Resident

    I have 2 copies of the original box both are complete other than one is missing the voter insert.
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  24. I seriously hope they just mixed up their opinions from bad memory.
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  25. dkurtis

    dkurtis sonofthefather

    I am quickly losing all faith and hope, in all things Chicago.
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