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Considered A Classic Album ( But You Don't Call It That )

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Wildest cat from montana, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. nowyouknow

    nowyouknow Music addict

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    I agree on this one . It's good and catchy but i'm not sure it really is a landmark album, even in Prince catalogue.
     
  2. eric777

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    Motley Crue - “Shout At The Devil”

    It’s a good album, but I don’t consider it a classic.
     
  3. nowyouknow

    nowyouknow Music addict

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    Elvis's first LP.

    It was made cult by default by album-era fans and journalists who probably thought one must have a certified classic album to justify its greatness/relevance. This is just several Sun and early RCA non-hits Elvis songs mixed together with an iconic album cover. Good music but only a tiny sampler of what he achieved in the 50's.
     
  4. bobcat

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    Who does?????
     
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  5. eric777

    eric777 Astral Projectionist

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    Every fan of theirs I have ever spoken to. It may not have made the ranks of “Dark Side of the Moon” but for many of their fans it is a classic.
     
  6. bobcat

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    I've never met a Motley Crue fan....you're really stretching the definition of "classic album" here, IMHO
     
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  7. Somerset Scholar

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    Your post me made laugh even though I like The Wall (warts and all) and OK Computer (a bit less so).
    Got me thinking about 'extras' that come with albums and what the weirdest ones are....
     
  8. eric777

    eric777 Astral Projectionist

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    Thanks for reminding me why I don’t post here as much as I use to. You could have just ignored my post if you disagreed, but I guess that is asking too much.
     
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  9. Celebrated Summer

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    Did you play her "Everyone's Gone To The Movies?" Because that actually does have a porn reference, although you have to know where to look to find it. (It's also NOT a romantic song about taking someone to the movies, as my ex thought.)
     
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  10. Somerset Scholar

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    I was playing The Royal Scam. She doesn't really know their music at all, though, so she must be going off that 70's vibe.
    I do like Everyone's Gone to the Movies. Another great album...might dig out Katy Lied today and enjoy in the sun!
     
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  11. gazzaa2

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    It's the same with films. Citizen Kane or Lawrence of Arabia etc are classic films but they aren't the films I re-watch. It's about consensus.

    It applies to modern day as well. I don't listen to Kanye West or Kendrick Lamar's so-called "albums of the decade".

    Ultimately if you don't like or not that keen on a particular type of music you're not going to consider it as a classic.
     
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  12. Paul Gase

    Paul Gase Everything is cheaper than it looks.

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    Good to know. I don’t think The Falls LPs were that big in the states.
     
  13. Zack

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    Funny but I think that's the hardest rocking Dan album of all (though that could be the subject of another long SHTV thread).
     
  14. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

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    Corporate Rock has nothing to do with big-money backing - it's about the sound and image.

    You could be a self-made garage band that records for an indie label and still be Corporate Rock...
     
  15. carlwm

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    It's used by people whoe don't like AOR to knock AOR which is their prerogative, of course.
     
  16. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

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    Sometimes, but not necessarily.

    "AOR" is too broad a term for the Corporate Rock acts. You can include bands like Led Zeppelin or AC/DC under that umbrella, and no one ever called them "Corporate Rock".

    I agree that the term "Corporate Rock" started as a criticism, as did a lot of genre names - I don't think Grunge or Punk were meant as compliments.

    I think people take them too seriously and get too worked up about them, honestly... :shrug:
     
  17. carlwm

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    In all my days as a music fan, I have never heard either Led Zeppelin or AC/DC described as AOR.

    Maybe it's another continental difference.
     
  18. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

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    "AOR" was a radio term for exactly what the acronym abbreviates: stations that played rock that wasn't dependent on hit singles.

    AOR radio stations are the places that buoyed a lot of these acts in the 70s, as they didn't get played on top 40 outlets.

    I guess Corporate Rock fans have tried to rebrand "AOR" to cover that genre, but it makes no sense.

    "AOR" is for music that doesn't hit the singles charts, not just the kind of polished rock of bands like Boston or Journey.

    And since plenty of supposed "AOR" bands had plenty of top 40 hits, it makes no sense to call them "album oriented rock"...
     
  19. Sear

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    They weren't commercially big in any place. They are critical darlings, regarded as a cult band. And it baffles me. I have their most acclaimed album "This nation saving grace" and it's awful. Each and every song consists of a simple little riff repeated throughout the song while the "singer" speaks/rant over it. Sometimes they even were too lazy to write their own riffs and borrow other's ("Gut of the quantifier "takes Strangelove's"Night time" riff, ditto "Elves" and "I wanna be your dog".
    A fraud of a band if you ask me
     
  20. carlwm

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    The fans haven't rebranded anything, at least over here. It was the music press and it definitely covers a whole slew of (originally) American acts that followed in Boston's wake who didn't have a strong visual image and who didn't often crank the volume up overly high. We have, or at least had, before the explosions of internet stations, a very different radio set-up to the States so until the likes of Planet Rock, we had no dedicated rock programmes, just the odd show and very few that regularly played album tracks.

    Over here, there isn't even a consensus as to what AOR stands for so we may well have different UK and US definitions of the term. Regardless, it's all good. There's only really two categories of music anyway! :)
     
  21. Oatsdad

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    I did see some site call it "Adult Oriented Rock", which doesn't make any more sense for the bands in question than "Album Oriented Rock". Like I said, the Corp Rock bands all had top 40 hits, so they're not really "album oriented" or "adult oriented".

    I was a kid in the 70s and all of them were popular with my age group!

    I really do think people get too hung up on the terminology and fans of Hair Metal and Corp Rock are too offended by those terms.

    Bubblegum fans don't seem to mind that branding and it was clearly intended as an insult! :shrug:
     
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  22. Felix Atagong

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    I do agree about The Wall and I would like to add Waters' solo-album Amused To Death, that for a lot of people (and for him) is about the best he ever did, including Pink Floyd. I am a Floyd fan for 45 years and I can dig The Final Cut, Pro & Cons and even Radio KAOS, but Amused is just a lot of sound effects glued over Waters love for reading shopping lists and cutting a 3 minutes songs in three parts from 6 minutes each... (aaargh)...
     
  23. django68

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    As much as I love Lee Perrys' Black Ark sound, I just don't get what I consider to be the over the top laudits heaped on "Heart Of The Congos." It seems to have gained an even greater reputation since Reggae The Rough Guide was published and the Blood & Fire re-issue. I hear it called one of the greatest reggae albums of all time, but for me it's not even the greatest album to come out of the Ark.
     
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  24. Shoehorn with Teeth

    Shoehorn with Teeth Romans 6:23

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    The Holy Bible by Manic Street Preachers

    It's a good album but I've never understood the rabid love that so many have for it. Truth be told, I'd take most of the band's albums over it.:hide:
     
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  25. jas621

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    Sorry, we only have eight"
     

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