Could the Beatles have broken more ground and/or pioneered more?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Myrtonos, May 19, 2023.

  1. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    They basically carried popular music for most of the 1960s. That's more than enough to ask of anyone.
     
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  2. CHALKERS

    CHALKERS Forum Resident

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    I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I expect that nothing is supposed to sound like anything. Yes, we have genres and there's plenty of music that seemingly doesn't fit into any specific category but I think you were clutching at straws for calling Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da a reggae track and for calling Helter Skelter a metal track.
     
  3. Jimmy B.

    Jimmy B. Be yourself or don't bother. Anti-fascism.

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    Could the Beatles have broken more ground and/or pioneered more?

    Please God, no more.
     
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  4. Garageflower

    Garageflower Turn up the music. Hi as Fi can go.

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    I know this may seem petty but many forum members know all about The Kinks and See My Friends predating Norwegian Wood. Also, I think The Yardbirds have similar claims. Whilst it may be true, that a couple of acts started to introduce an Indian flavour to their music, it still doesn't alter the fact, that The Beatles were the first to actually use a sitar. They were probably also the first to use a lot of other Indian instruments in Western pop music.

    It's a bit like when they were the first to deliberately record feedback. Plenty of acts had been doing this in a live setting before this, but it doesn't alter the fact The Beatles were the first to use it intentionally on a record.
     
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  5. stanleynohj

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    I thought it was well known that those songs were considered those sorts of songs (as done by four lads from Liverpool)). If they aren't, what are they? They don't sound like Mersey Beat to me.

    Did the Beatles Record the First Heavy Metal Song? | Exclaim! .

    Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da - Wikipedia
     
  6. CHALKERS

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    Well I guess it wasn't well known by me.

    McCartney wrote the song when reggae was becoming popular in Britain; author Ian MacDonald describes it as "McCartney's rather approximate tribute to the Jamaican ska idiom" - Wikipedia

    Hardly 'reggae' - perhaps influenced by reggae/ska/rocksteady to some degree

    Regarding the first article the sensationalist headline put me off straight away. And it answers it's own question in the article:

    In 2018, McCartney told NME that he's never claimed credit for having recorded the first heavy metal song, reiterating that he was just trying to be like the Who. - Exclaim

    We might have to agree to disagree on this one I think...
     
  7. Aladdin Sane

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    Possibly, but they would have become irrelevant like all artists.
     
  8. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    The Beatles could have possibly branched out into expansive space rock. But in reality they were too grounded in English tradition and American roots music.

    It took the Byrds and Jimi Hendrix to really soar into space rock territory.

    The Beatles psychedelic music was SO good...and very diverse.

    But America was where the Space Age really took off.

    They're still the best band ever.
     
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  9. HfxBob

    HfxBob Forum Resident

    Love the Whack-a-mole image.
     
  10. HfxBob

    HfxBob Forum Resident

    Huh?
     
  11. HfxBob

    HfxBob Forum Resident

    Awww...
     
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  12. DK Pete

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    I never thought of Ob-La-di as Reggae either; but interestingly, I used to work with a Jamaican fellow who basically knew nothing about The Beatles. One day, a Jamaican based radio station he was listening to played the song; he said to me a bit later how cool The Beatles were and that he didn’t know they did Reggae. It took me quite by surprise; if anything, the outtake version has hints of Reggae it but it never occurred to me with the originally released version.
     
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  13. Myrtonos

    Myrtonos Forum Resident Thread Starter

    The question is if they could have also carried popular music into the 1970s as well, say if they had not lost their manager.
     
  14. Tristero

    Tristero In possession of the future tense

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    Yeah, there was definitely nothing else happening in pop music back then. . .
     
  15. NightGoatToCairo

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    Like reading one of @Wildest cat from montana posts!
     
  16. NightGoatToCairo

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    What on earth is space rock?
     

  17. 70s: Some Early Pink Floyd, early Tangerine Dream, Hawkwind (first 5), Klaus Schulze, kosmische music of krautrock as opposed to motorik, Hearts of Space label, etc., I assume you were born after the Apollo missions and the moon landing?

     
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  18. versionsound

    versionsound The six strings that drew blood

    No to both.
     
  19. versionsound

    versionsound The six strings that drew blood

    After they invented heavy metal, the next logical step was EDM. We can only imagine the possibilities.

     
  20. NightGoatToCairo

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    Weren't The B*atles, the first band on the moon?
     
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  21. The Who had a Moon first.
     
  22. healter skealter

    healter skealter Human animal

    Not sure, but I know what it isn't, and that would be The Byrds.
     
  23. davenav

    davenav High Plains Grifter

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    What “Beatle Wars” are you referencing???
     
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  24. Catcher10

    Catcher10 I like records, and Prog...duh

  25. Monasmee

    Monasmee Forum Ruminant

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    Upon is release, I just enjoyed the song. Nowadays it kinda sounds Eastern European to my ears (dare I say Polka?). Whatever the case, I’ve always loved this bouncing gem.
     
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