Crazy Priced Albums on eBay - All From Same Seller

Discussion in 'Marketplace Discussions' started by TheVillageRecorder, Mar 18, 2018.

  1. Dream On

    Dream On Forum Resident

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    Banning a seller means very little if ebay does not have the fortitude to ensure they ban them again when they start listing under another name.

    Do you guys have any opinion on the many sealed Classic Records albums that are posted for sale? Seems that even after they sell, new copies go up to replace them. It's not like we are talking records from 50+ years ago, so there is probably a good stash of these albums out there that are still sealed. But it makes me wonder. People certainly do pay a premium for them and so the temptation must be there (if you are a low life scammer).
     
  2. Cassius

    Cassius On The Beach

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    Some fun stuff. I'd seen this guys auctions before but never dug too deep. It's clear he's still running scams. The London records white oval promo sticker on his current Let It Be auction would be kinda cute if it wasn't fraud.
     
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  3. Mugrug12

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    Is it possible to block an eBay seller from your saved searches, suggestions, etc?
     
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  4. ispace

    ispace Forum Resident

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    I suspect that this "company" lists items on eBay that they find for sale elsewhere at a huge markup, then when you buy it on eBay, they place the order & they either drop ship to you or they get it shipped to them first.

    I noticed a rare CD pop up from them on eBay; the only copy on eBay. I was curious, so I Googled & found exactly one copy on Amazon from an unrelated seller for almost half the price! So I ordered it from Amazon, and will watch closely to see if the eBay listing disappears. Even if it doesn't, it attracts collectors who may browse their other eBay listings & they can simply cancel orders they can't fulfil. Which explains they receive so many negative feedbacks after cancelling orders on eBay.

    I'm not sure what this type of speculative selling is called, but I know there is at least one large scale Dutch seller on Discogs that does this. Except in this case, they copy listings from Discogs itself!!
     
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  5. ispace

    ispace Forum Resident

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    And yes the eBay auction has finished, as I expected. So I’m pretty sure Zuber are speculatively listing other people’s products with a large markup. Has anyone else seen evidence of this?
     
  6. Sane Man

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    Cool. Time to follow Zuber so I can know something rare I want is available elsewhere :p
     
  7. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

    I recently bought a couple Japanese Mini LP's from "discsjapan" on Ebay.

    It took a week to ship, as it became clear they didn't carry stock, but were simply ordering things from another source to fill their orders. Bit disappointed I had to wait so long, and a good to know.
     
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  8. Christian Hill

    Christian Hill It's all in the mind

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    I see he is back now
     
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  9. radickeyfan

    radickeyfan Forum Resident

    kind of crazy ....that he popped up again , so quickly
     
  10. Led9

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    Which seller is back?
     
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  11. radickeyfan

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    the one in the 1st post
     
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  13. Mugrug12

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  14. TheVillageRecorder

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  15. Mugrug12

    Mugrug12 Crome Yellow

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    Am I correct also that the orange circle promo sticker would be on the sleeve itself without shrink?
     
  16. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Yes.
     
  17. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

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    Yeah pretty sure it's the same guy. Looks like he took the shrink from a Zep II (I've seen ones with the WLL sticker and song listing sticker) and then put it over a promo copy. can't really tell from the photo if that promo sticker is on the shrink or sleeve though. If on the shrink then it's def a fake. If on the sleeve, still a fake since they were never released with that shrink (or any shrink that I'm aware of).

    Buyers really need to make sure they know what they are buying. Even if I didn't know of this guy, the whole auction would look suspect to me because of what I know regarding Zep II stock copies and WLPs.

    Mind you the current price is not outrageous considering the collectable nature of II RLs and WLPs. But with two days to go, I'm sure it'll go up.
     
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  18. McLover

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    A note: That promo sticker was used on early Reprise Promo copies pre Warner Brothers buyout. That sticker looked very familiar to me.
     
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  19. radickeyfan

    radickeyfan Forum Resident

    i feel really bad for his buyers ...
     
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  20. ispace

    ispace Forum Resident

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    It actually ruins the market for everyone, because the fraudulent products are integrated into innocent collectors’ holdings in the same way that dirty money is laundered by criminals. So how do you verify the authenticity of these products in future?
     
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  21. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    And then it gives sellers a false value of something they may be trying to sell that's shrink wrapped.
     
  22. ispace

    ispace Forum Resident

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    He got $3,227 for this fraudulent LP. I reported it to eBay but it’s far too esoteric for them to understand the nature of the fraud, much less be able to verify it. The guy has found the perfect fraud.
     
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  23. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

    In summary - they don't care. Commission earned.
     
  24. Mugrug12

    Mugrug12 Crome Yellow

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    You've missed one more perfect aspect to the fraud, the nuttiest one! :
    there's a good chance The buyer doesn't care either! Some people want stuff like this for a status item. And since there's no returns he might not even care if the stickers are fake and the shrink is fake etc. he's paid his 3k for a wlp RL led zep2 and now he's got the grail! He maybe can't be bothered with some
    "Haters" pointing out he's been scammed for thousands. Oh life!
     
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  25. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

    Perhaps the buyer was a millenial and only wanted the "experience" of buying a rare album?

    :D
     
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