Crazy Priced Albums on eBay - All From Same Seller

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  1. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Or maybe there was no buyer actual at all....

    I've seen titles sell, then the same thing relisted a few weeks later, sold again, then relisted again weeks down the road.
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    :agree: Scam team with two or more people.
     
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  3. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

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    Could be or it could be non paying bidders or it could be returns. The item I won was sold, received by me, returned due to over grading and relisted all within 4-5 weeks and I was in Canada. If it were a US buyer who returned the lp it could've been received by the seller even sooner. My particular title was listed twice after I sent it back, then I stopped checking. He never changed the grade, sellers never do (although one did), so I expect it got returned again.

    IMO I think it's most likely buyers remorse or returns that you're seeing rather than fake buyers.
     
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  4. TheVillageRecorder

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    Every copy of LZ II hyrolspoti has includes the song titles sticker on the back. What are the odds....
     
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  5. Led9

    Led9 Forum Resident

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    I still say it's some form of money laundering. Most get bought by a group of shills and the LP's are recycled back to the seller. He doesn't have to worry about somebody opening a sealed copy up and finding a Mantovani album or questioning the fake stickers because no real buyers ever get them.
     
  6. Mugrug12

    Mugrug12 Crome Yellow

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    But some of the buyers have 1000's of feedbacks. Also I think for the amount of money that these records go for, it's not really a big enough sum to bother laundering. maybe I'm not adding it all up right, but the scam doesnt seem to be worth the tens of thousands that might require laundering. I dunno
     
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  7. ispace

    ispace Forum Resident

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    I’m on the fence. It does seem to be a highly labor intensive way to launder money. The shill bidding may be a way to set a precedent to give the impression that these promo LPs are worth $3,000, so that when the next one is listed a real buyer is delighted to get one for $2,000.
     
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  8. radickeyfan

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  9. Led9

    Led9 Forum Resident

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    Do you mean because of the gold record sticker? Hard to say. Zep II did nearly ship gold at its release so it could be possible gold stickers were put on some of the first run. Also, he describes it as a Presswell pressing but it is obviously a Specialty Records pressing.
     
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  10. eddiel

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    That's not true because I was a real buyer and I can assure you (and all the authorities peaking in) that I never engaged in any money laundering business. :)
     
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  11. eddiel

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  12. radickeyfan

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    yea, you might be on to something...
     
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  15. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    I returned a record to him no problems.
    It was over graded and he agreed when it was sent back.
    My experiences and feeling tell me that big sellers of good reputation are time poor listing hundreds of items and oversights occur as a result!
     
  16. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    I know the UK seller you allude to in the earlier-mid part of your listing.
    Really hard to spot the gradings and has his well worn classic lines like:
    A) This is in no way over graded, it would not be in my interest to do so!
    B) So rare this way or rarely seen like this!
    C) Originally only sold in miniscule amounts!
    I once challenged him that he said an Export issue was original and he agreed with me that it was not and then told me the listing did not state it to be original!
    But guess what......It sure did!
     
  17. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    All true plus maybe more younger or just inexperienced sellers are popping up as they see there is money to be made and are strongly lacking in grading ability!
    In 2017 I bought over 100 records on ebay and 40% of them were either over graded or packed badly so they were damaged.
    In 2018 I bought maybe less than a third of that amount.
    I have always thought that ebay should make a grading tutorial (& packing) video that was mandatory to view for at least all new sellers of vinyl!
     
  18. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    Ebay love money.
    Unless it is patently obvious to a 10 year old or someone alerts them to it anyone could sell bootlegs until they had raised enough money to buy Greece!
     
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  19. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa Let's go rain again !!

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    There’s a guy on ebay selling downloads of all of the McCartney archive sets. How doesn’t he get shut down?
     
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  21. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Why do this guys Vinyl sales smell like Tuna to a guy like me who's not even into Vinyl?
     
  22. radickeyfan

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  23. bayen

    bayen Forum Resident

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    Very interesting...thanks for the links!
     
  24. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Funkyousounds is another that seems to have some of the same album listed within a week after selling. But I will say they deal in volume, compared to the seller in the op.
     
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  25. dav3id

    dav3id New Member

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    On November 2nd, 2018 A numbered copy of the beatles White album sold to Dmitryofhollywood.The copy was numbered 9701. The album cover was not shrink wrapped and the records did not have any errors to the songs on the record labels.

    On December 23, 2018,The Beatles White album, number 9701, was sold by hyrolspoti. The records now had the 7 errors on the record labels. Furthermore, hyrolspoti claimed that the cover was in its original shrinkwrap.
     
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