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Cream - Goodbye Tour Box

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tuck1977, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    I’m sure you did. My point was Clapton is likely not very involved with reissue product. He probably signs off, but I suspect he isn’t overly concerned with the details.
     
  2. craymcla

    craymcla Forum Resident

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    I think his point is just that the audience recordings capture the amps at full blast whereas the official recordings have the amps turned down somewhat for whatever reason.
     
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  3. Tuck1977

    Tuck1977 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Indeed it is enough to gauge what it would of been like regardless of audio quality. Bruce probably played similar but Clapton would loose out the most.
     
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  4. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    I don't think we know that for certain. The sound of the audience recordings (and Detroit, which isn't an audience recording) likely has far more to do with the way they are recorded than amp volume.
     
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  5. DrBeatle

    DrBeatle The Rock and Roll Chemist

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    The news of this box set was a big surprise and very welcome, even if almost all of this stuff has been available forever.
     
  6. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    Exactly, but it should contain sound quality upgrades. When Levenson posted he was working on a live Cream release earlier in the year, I suspect no one thought it was on unheard tapes. This is definitely something to look forward to.
     
  7. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kinda guy. Mysphere 3.2.

    ....on bootlegs. I (and I suspect, most people)prefer to buy legit releases so money can be returned to the artist.
     
  8. so how many shows were performed on the tour and how many were recorded
     
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  9. DrBeatle

    DrBeatle The Rock and Roll Chemist

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    Oh for sure...I'm going to jump all over it once it's released!
     
  10. PHILLYQ

    PHILLYQ Forum Resident

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    Amazon showing 2/7/20 release date.
     
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  11. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    I was gonna post those same links. Thanks for saving me the trouble!

    @hoggydoggy I have that Ginger Baker album. So now I'm comparing the recordings and The Ginger Baker Album indeed has the same performance as released on the Clapton single, except in mono. Oh well. I got the album for cheap and it's still the only place to get Ginger and Art Blakey's drum battle!!! Good catch.

    (Full disclosure I have the Fillmore recording via the Wheels Of Fire set, not sure if that was a different mix to the actual maxi-single.)
     
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  12. hoggydoggy

    hoggydoggy Forum Resident

    Thanks for clearing that up - oh well, looks like we've got to wait a while longer, before we learn any more about the true nature of the RAH recording they're using...
     
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  13. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    What exactly is the question?
     
  14. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    The Ginger Baker album claimed to feature Sunshine Of Your Love from the Royal Albert Hall. Despite this, it's in fact a mono mix of the Fillmore Auditorium, which can be heard elsewhere (the After Midnight Maxi Single and The Wheels Of Fire SHM set) in stereo.

    The question was how the RAH recording sounded on that Ginger Baker Album but obviously it could not provide an answer after all!
     
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  15. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    I thought @hoggydoggy's question was regarding RAH on the new release, which as far as I knew wasn't in question.
     
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  16. PitreVert

    PitreVert Active Member

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  17. hoggydoggy

    hoggydoggy Forum Resident

    @revolution_vanderbilt calls it correctly - I'd seen that particular Ginger Baker compilation purported to have a version of Sunshine from RAH 1968 & was curious as to how it sounded & whether it would provide a hint as to what the new set might sound like. As it turns out, it was mislabelled (deliberately or accidentally, who knows...)
     
  18. supermd

    supermd Forum Resident

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  19. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

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    Appears Live Cream, Live Cream Vol 2. and the Live side of WOF will stand as definitive ( Stere0 -that is)

    And with that I'm out.

    Goodbye Mono-

    Enjoy though-:)
     
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  20. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Why do you say that?
     
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  21. Spencer R

    Spencer R Forum Resident

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    My take on this is, yes. they were at their peak in 1967, and perhaps a bit burnt out in 1968 ... but even at less than 100% they were still amazing and worth hearing.
     
  22. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

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    I misunderstood Marc's post. I thought he meant all the shows on this set were presented in mono.

    I take it back (right out of here)
     
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  23. supermd

    supermd Forum Resident

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    I think it's kinda funny when people say, "Oh, Cream live 1968 are not as good as 1967," as if the performances here are going to be sub-par. Like, it's Cream. As in "of the crop."
     
  24. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    Just wanted to add that the version on the Ginger Baker Album seems to have added applause and also runs a bit faster. But when lining up sections, the phasing sounds alone make it clear that it's an identical performance to the Fillmore.
     
  25. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    Totally different shows too. I think comparing early 68 to later 68 makes for a better comparison at least.
     

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