Cream - Goodbye Tour Box

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tuck1977, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. marc roberty

    marc roberty Forum Resident

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    Really? I know there is a great audience recording that was made from the photo pit, but not aware of a soundboard. Does it circulate?
     
  2. Dondy

    Dondy Forumaniac

    Well, at least my source claimed it was an SB recording. It does sound pretty good but it may indeed be that audience-taped recording you mention.
     
  3. hoggydoggy

    hoggydoggy Forum Resident

    Luke: not surprised at this news or doubting you for a moment, but is this verified info?

    Cheers.
     
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  4. crossroads69

    crossroads69 Forum Resident

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    Not necessarily - there could always be rights issue with the filming crew (similar to Hendrix at RAH) or the tapes may have been lost (similar to the fate of original film reels for this concert).

    When Cream reformed in 2005, there were rumors that the few original unedited reels of the Farewell concert film were found. Ended up being nothing but wishful thinking.......that film is such a lost opportunity!
     
  5. Flaming Torch

    Flaming Torch Forum Resident

    I don't know. I have the Empress Valley boot which certainly sounds great to me but this forthcoming Universal set will be fine I'm sure. Bill Levenson is listed as producer and he certainly knows Cream and that era way better than me. Price seems ok in the UK as well. As a fan I hope it does well and tempts Universal back into doing something with Disraeli Gears and Wheels of Fire.
     
  6. Flaming Torch

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    I think this set will have 4 drum solos for Mrs Torch. An enterprising person at Universal would put out a vinyl double album with all 4 one per side for 2020 RSD.
     
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  7. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    Universal... I hope these tapes were not lost in the fire.
     
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  8. Dondy

    Dondy Forumaniac

    As I posted already upthreat, I guess that boot box must have been the inspiration - or "wake up call" for this new release. Heck, even some pictures are the same!
    The boot box though came with diginoise on the last three tracks of the 10/19 LA Forum show and the RAH show of course is only the circulating audience recording. Hence, I take it that the powers-that-be behind the official box saw how great the idea of that farewell tour box was and at the same time imagined how easily they could top that and beat that bootleg at its own game. :righton:
     
  9. penguinzzz

    penguinzzz Forum Resident

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    For the sake of my own memory-challenged sanity I made a list of the sources for the officially released live tracks prior to this release. Thought it might be helpful to share?

    1968 Mar 07 San Francisco Fillmore Auditorium

    Rollin & Tumblin (LC/ TWTD)
    Toad (WOF)
    Toad -partial (TWTD)
    Sunshine of Your Love - on 1988 After Midnight maxi single and 2014 Japanese "Wheels of Fire" edition.

    1968 Mar 08 San Francisco Winterland Ballroom
    Traintime (WOF/ TWTD)
    Toad -partial (TWTD)

    1968 Mar 09 San Francisco Winterland Ballroom

    NSU (TWTD)
    Sleepy Time Time (LC / TWTD)
    Sunshine of Your Love (LC vol2/ TWTD)

    1968 Mar 10 San Francisco Winterland Ballroom
    NSU (LC)
    Steppin Out (LC vol2/ TWTD)
    Tales of Brave Ulysses (LC vol2/ TWTD)
    Spoonful (WOF/ TWTD)
    Crossroads (WOF/ TWTD)
    Sweet Wine (LC/ TWTD)

    1968 Oct 04 Oakland Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum

    White Room (LC vol2/ TWTD)
    Politician (LC vol2/ TWTD)
    Deserted Cities of the Heart (LC vol2/ TWTD)

    1968 Oct 19 Inglewood The Forum
    I’m so Glad (Gb/ TWTD)
    Sittin on Top Of The World (Gb/ TWTD)
    Politician (Gb)
    Spoonful (Li12B)


    (hope the acronyms are obvious.
    TWTD = Those Were The Days box set
    Li12B = LIfe in 12 Bars EC collection)
     
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  10. revolution_vanderbilt

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    The Those Were The Days set offered major upgrades for the two LA tracks on Goodbye and three Oakland tracks on Live Cream II. The original album versions are what they are and I keep them as part of the album's integrity, but hopefully this new set will make the upgraded versions redundant.

    My first Cream purchases were Goodbye, Live Cream and II. When I got Those Were The Days later that same year, I only ripped some of the tracks and it wasn't for many more months that I learned those five tracks were not the original album mixes. :magoo:

    After the clear improvements and upgrades of BBC material featured on the Fresh Cream deluxe, it would have been great to get a Disraeli Gears set with the remaining BBC material getting the same treatment. Added points if they threw in a few more demos (Take It Back and Blue Condition from the first session). Wheels Of Fire I guess could have taken on the same tracks as the SHM set (Anyone For Tennis, Falstaff Beer, NSU live alternate, and Sunshine Of Your Love.) Add in Sunshine from the Glen Campbell show, include both the long and short versions of Passing The Time, and get the alternate mixes of Sitting On Top Of The World and As You Said.

    But the draw of Fresh Cream was that it offered a lot of new material. Ditto with this new set.
     
  11. Dondy

    Dondy Forumaniac


    Cool and very helpful, indeed!
    Addenda:
    1968 Mar 07 San Francisco Fillmore Auditorium
    Sunshine of Your Love - on 1988 After Midnight maxi single and 2014 Japanese "Wheels of Fire" edition.
     
  12. revolution_vanderbilt

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    @penguinzzz quick while you can still edit your post: Sunshine Of Your Love from the After Midnight maxi-single from the Fillmore Auditorium!

    edit:

    @Dondy err... great minds, huh? :D
     
  13. penguinzzz

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    thanks - done!
     
  14. All Down The Line

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    I have all of the first 3 cd's on boots except for 2 cuts.
    I have Albert Hall too but edited and likely just a film dub so this may be intriguing!
     
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  15. All Down The Line

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    I believe that Sunshine cut was also on a 1992 Westwood One radio sampler.
     
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  16. Tommyboy

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    I’d wait 2 days on line outside my record store to get my grubby little hands on that baby!
     
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  17. NumberEight

    NumberEight Came too late and stayed too long

    Also (in mono) on Ginger Baker’s The Album!
     
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  18. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    As far as I know the only shows that were recorded were those on the west coast, by Bill Halverson. Remote/mobile recording was still a pretty big endeavor at the time.

    As previously posted:

    The boot definitely wasn't the inspiration for the idea, which predated the boot by several years.
     
  19. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    Looks like Levenson was told to be "Live'r than you'll ever be!"
     
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  20. posnera

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    I assumed that the boot was sourced from leaked tapes which were taken out of storage when this box was first being worked on.
     
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  21. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Bootleg sources are far less sexy these days.
     
  22. penguinzzz

    penguinzzz Forum Resident

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    I think the Dallas show is indeed a good audience recording. I too have a circulating version which listed it as SB.
     
  23. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    I largely agree though with a few other positives to purchase it as well.
     
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  24. revolution_vanderbilt

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    And in 2015, that same disc was released with the book Natural Born Drummer. And then an album using the same art as the Natural Born Drummer book was released called Do What You Like which is a disc of Ginger Baker's Air Force recordings. Of course, there was a previous album called Do What You Like (containing both Air Force albums, Ginger's album Stratavarious, and some bonus cuts.) This has managed to mess up a few online databases...
     
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  25. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    Yes and uniquely it also features a female doing the introduction.
     
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