Cream - Goodbye Tour Box

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tuck1977, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. hbbfam

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    Sometimes other non U. S. sites are higher sometimes lower. Not sure if royalty payouts is reason. Are there royalties on 51 old recordings?
     
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  2. marc roberty

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    Sadly not. A Kinescope copy of the entire late show exists which has the benefit of no edits or cuts. I am sure there is, or was, one for the entire early show, but I have not been able to locate it. It makes sense that there was one. No audience recordings have surfaced either so an exact setlist and the running order for the early set is just speculation for now. That said, it makes sense that it would be similar to the late show in my opinion.
     
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  3. All Down The Line

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    Is the guitar lower in the mix though in the 1997 TWTD box set?
     
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  4. It was mainly Ginger's drums that sounded better. It actually sounded more like the official Live Cream 2 released Oakland tracks were the rough mixes in comparison. Same with the LA Forum stuff.
     
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  5. All Down The Line

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    Good to hear you didn't Boycott.
     
  6. lukpac

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    I can't compare at the moment, but my recollection is the Live Cream 2 mixes have a much more "live" sound, possibly with more of the audience mics. The Halverson rough mixes are more dry and upfront.
     
  7. All Down The Line

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    Exactly my thoughts from page 1, what set from RAH Are we getting or is it a combination of the two?
     
  8. Almost Simon

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    Wonder if the RAH show cd will keep the John Peel introduction intact.
     
  9. lukpac

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    Both already addressed earlier.
     
  10. All Down The Line

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    1963-92' If I recall my old hardcover stating.
     
  11. All Down The Line

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    And their families still can and Will be assisted by Eric's actions, decisions & clearances.
     
  12. Almost Simon

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    Got that book too, there were 2 later volumes, first of which covered everything upto '82.
     
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  13. Almost Simon

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    sorry, i didnt see that, will check back.

    this thread moving very fast.
     
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  14. hoggydoggy

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    Happened to me earlier too! Check @marc roberty 's posts for the lowdown (the answer to your question is "No"! ;))
     
  15. All Down The Line

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    Thanks, late to thread but I only brought it up after just now reading the first 6 pages today before seeing it mentioned.
     
  16. All Down The Line

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    Some truth there certainly in terms of the united thrust and consistency however there are brilliant cuts in latter 1968 also.
    But you should also checkout Clapton's playing from arriving in the US circa Aug or Sept 67' through to The Back Bay Theatre in Boston around April 68'.
     
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  17. All Down The Line

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    I largely agree but for some random cuts and plenty of the March 68' material.
     
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  18. All Down The Line

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    Listening comprehension more crucial!
     
  19. All Down The Line

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    I have always thought it was simply to get a better recorded sound?
     
  20. There’s far less cymbal spillage in the “rough” mixes.
     
  21. lukpac

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    Cymbal spillage?
     
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  22. All Down The Line

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    Well Winterland unlike Detroit does not have the endless guitar sustain or levels of distortion, to me the change here is likely a significant reason Clapton plays differently with this set up.
     
  23. All Down The Line

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    To be politically correct I will say yes but until recordings are officially released I will search high and low!
     
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  24. All Down The Line

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    The answer my friend is blowing In The West, the answer is blowing In The West!
     
  25. When Ginger hits the cymbals hard, the image of those cymbals moves somewhat, probably because it’s being picked up by other microphones. For whatever reason, the rough mixes don’t exhibit this.
     

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