Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tuck1977, Nov 29, 2019.
There’s far less cymbal spillage in the “rough” mixes.
Well Winterland unlike Detroit does not have the endless guitar sustain or levels of distortion, to me the change here is likely a significant reason Clapton plays differently with this set up.
To be politically correct I will say yes but until recordings are officially released I will search high and low!
The answer my friend is blowing In The West, the answer is blowing In The West!
When Ginger hits the cymbals hard, the image of those cymbals moves somewhat, probably because it’s being picked up by other microphones. For whatever reason, the rough mixes don’t exhibit this.
I like this the sound of this recording of Grande Ballroom, Detroit, Michigan, USA - October 15, 1967 better than the other one.
Excellent post all around as it touches on many important factors!
I think I'm hearing what you're talking about with Deserted Cities Of The Heart in the solo, where some crashes oddly pop out the left. I don't think that has anything to do with spillage, however. The only track mixed left is the bass track, and there wouldn't be any appreciable drum leakage into that mic. And it seems likely the drums were only recorded on two tracks (2 for the vocals, 2 for the bass and guitar, 2 for stereo drums, and 2 for stereo audience); as the stereo image of the drums is a bit different on Live Cream II, my feeling is they employed some "creative" mixing techniques, which ended up producing that as a side-effect.
The Live Cream II mixes, for better or worse, are definitely more "produced" sounding. The Halverson rough mixes have better fidelity, but they are much closer to "faders up" mix.
Abso bleedin' lutely!
They're Going Wrong!
Sounds like a motorpsycho nightmare!
Yes this beats out the more recent London Calling boot & reportedly Creamer also!
Iam looking forward to (hopefully) a further upgrade on the Clapton tour de force that was first birthed on Goodbye Cream.
Just for information, "We're Going Wrong" from Winterland 10 March 1968, was on Wolfgang's Vault.
Thanks, this happens to be my favorite era for Clapton as I love his Gibson (be it Les Paul, SG, or Firebird) plus Marshall tone
Apologies as I did mean to say: Sitting On Top Of The World!
What are people listening to in anticipation of this set? I listened to the first Live Cream (since that’s all Winterland and has long been one of my favorites for the extended jams) and Eric Clapton’s Rainbow Concert, which I had never listened to before but mostly enjoyed. February 7th can’t come soon enough!
I was thinking the very same thing last night. Fancy pulling out my Live Cream and vol.2 vinyl for a spin.
My favorite track is NSU from Live Cream ( vol 1)
I broke down and did a preorder on Amazon UK. Even if the price does not go down more, about $43 shipped sounds good to me. I will switch later to a US vendor in order to avoid the usually horrible packing from Amazon UK if prices meet that though.
You know that the Amazon price will drop from the $69.98....
"Anyone For Tennis" ...
I assume that it will, but who knows how much. And they will charge me tax on top of it. UK site did not charge me tax (at least as far as I could tell). Also the UK price might drop too (???). Time will tell. I'll switch to USA if they beat the UK price though...
I'm one of the pathetic losers who needed the exclusive art print accompanying early orders through some sites. In my (admittedly feeble) defense, we recently moved and I'm just getting together this week the art for my media room, all of which said art is Hendrix or Cream. So I've set aside a 12x12" footprint in the layout for the print to come, all the while assuming it will be the box set cover image...
My favorite Cream boot
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