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Cream - Goodbye Tour Box

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tuck1977, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

    Location:
    The Southwest
    Most of Live Cream and Live Cream II is sourced from and the Winterland (3/9, 3/10/68) and Fillmore West (3/7/68); three tracks from Live Cream II are from 10/4/68 at the Oakland Coliseum Arena.
     
  2. Maurice

    Maurice Senior Member

    Location:
    North Yarmouth, ME
    As someone who just recently discovered Cream,(prompted by news of Ginger Baker’s passing and watching the excellent Beware Of Mr. Baker documentary), this set is coming at exactly the right time. Can’t wait!
     
  3. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

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    7 tracks on the this set have been previously released on other releases.
     
  4. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    That's a really nice looking package.
     
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  5. John D.

    John D. Forum Resident

    It is nice looking, what happened to the Disraeli Gears deluxe?
     
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  6. Edmoney

    Edmoney Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Jersey
    Are the Cream performances found on this set generally considered to be very good? I thought I read somewhere on this forum (from several posters) that Cream was at its live peak (most creative, fresh, inspired, tightest performances) in 1967 and that by 1968 they were somewhat mailing it in and going through the motions ... that their hearts were no longer in it.
     
  7. Jon-A

    Jon-A Forum Resident

    Location:
    Madison, WI
    Many swear by the earlier stuff - not me. I think that late-68 finds them still at close to their best - and any deficit is more than made up for by the much better sound and instrumental balance of the recordings. Those prized earlier boots are so often distorted and unbalanced to the point of masking the individual players (usually Jack) and minimizing the all-important interplay between the three. If this much material emerged from early 68, or 67, in excellent sound (the 3 California shows - wait and see on RAH), I might adjust my opinion. But for the foreseeable future 10/68 is my go-to for live Cream.
     
  8. crossroads69

    crossroads69 Senior Member

    Location:
    London Town
    The studio tapes for Disraeli Gears were long destroyed in the Atlantic fire and so there is not much left in the vault to reissue. Universal did a 2-CD deluxe set in 2004 that covered what’s left studio wise.

    However, they could’ve gone down same route and possibly done a Disraeli Gears Live box set with the complete Winterland & Fillmore shows from March 1968.

    I guess they thought it was better idea to release the late 1968 shows in Goodbye package instead and that the market wasn’t there for 2 live Cream sets from 1968.

    I don’t think Bill @musicman9999 posts here anymore but he should have the answers. Hopefully someone does an interview with him about this new release.
     
  9. crossroads69

    crossroads69 Senior Member

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    London Town
    Did Cream record any 1967 shows on multi track? I was browsing Marc Roberty’s Day By Day book and couldn’t find any entries other than Stockholm (Mar 1967) that was recorded for radio .
     
  10. thenobs70

    thenobs70 Forum Resident

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    Here's a quick little guide. Track times from iTunes.

     
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  11. I understand the super deluxe set for Disraeli Gears was skipped because of lack of surviving session tapes but... was there a Wheels Of Fire box set released?
     
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  12. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

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    No
     
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  13. Also lacking of surviving session tapes?
     
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  14. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

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    I'm not sure about that or if any of the live tapes from the shows recorded for the live disc survived.

    The live shows on the new box set were from the shows used on the Goodbye and Live Cream Vol. 2 lps and not Wheels of Fire.
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2019
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  15. crossroads69

    crossroads69 Senior Member

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    London Town
    Was the Royal Albert farewell concert recorded to multi track? What’s an “analog transfer reel” that’s referred in the press release as the source for disc 4? Trying to understand if a proper live concert recording set up was used (like mobile 4 or 8 track).
     
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  16. JR63

    JR63 Forum Resident

    I see that this boxed set is available for pre-order on the Amazon U.K. website, but when I go to the Amazon.com (U.S.) it says "Currently unavailable". I wonder when it will be listed as available for pre-order on our Amazon website?
     
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  17. hoggydoggy

    hoggydoggy Forum Resident

    This is what I was wondering – the wording of the blurb does not suggest a multitrack recording to me (even a 4-track or 8-track), but sounds more like it’s gonna be a simple mono or stereo soundboard recording, with all instrument levels & balance “locked-in”.

    Incidentally, Sunshine Of Your Love from RAH 1968 was released on this Ginger Baker compilation in 1991,

    Ginger Baker - The Album

    Does anyone have it or know how it sounds? That could provide a clue to what this new set has to offer (assuming it’s the same tape source, of course…)
     
  18. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    Do you happen to recall where the two live bonus tracks ( Sunshine / NSU ) included on the 2013 SHM Wheels release where recorded ..?
     
  19. Tuck1977

    Tuck1977 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    UK
    Winterland I think
     
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  20. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI
    Rough mixes by Bill Halverson from 1968. Sitting On Top Of The World is posted on his website:

    Bill Halverson - Legendary Producer, Engineer, Arranger - Bio

    The basic tracks were cut at Wally Heider's (not demos), with overdubs at IBC. The basic track of Badge from Wally Heider's is posted on Halverson's site:

    Bill Halverson - Legendary Producer, Engineer, Arranger - Bio

    They are releasing the Goodbye shows because those are the shows that exist.
     
  21. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    Previously unreleased or taken from another release ??
     
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  22. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    @lukpac- thanks for the link to Badge-:thumbsup:
     
  23. John D.

    John D. Forum Resident

    Some excellent stuff on Bill's bio page too, check out Sitting On Top Of The World audio clip.
    Thanks @lukpac for these links, all new to me and much appreciated. :agree:
     
  24. mattazing

    mattazing Forum Resident

    Do you happen to know if they still have access to the the March '68 tapes (Wheels of Fire recording dates at Winterland/Fillmore).
     
  25. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI
    I'm not aware of anything complete like the fall shows, just a few songs. I know there's an alternate mono mix of Crossroads, for example; I don't know where that came from though.
     
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