Crucial Reggae

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jackie P, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. crozcat

    crozcat Forum Resident

    I got this today - a lot of great music!
    Though it´s not really all the Byles/Perry recordings, a few(?) tracks are missing.
    Of the "Trojan" tracks, Live As One is not here - but is on this:
    Lee Perry & Friends - Chapter 3: Live As One
    There are also a few tracks from (the superior sounding) Heartbeat collection missing:
    Junior Byles - Curly Locks (Best Of Junior Byles & The Upsetters 1970 - 1976)
    Soundwise, it´s about the same as the previous Trojan release Junior Byles - Beat Down Babylon "The Upsetter Years"
    although not as "loud". (I´m not an audiophile, but maybe it´s less compressed?)
    Still, recommeded it is! :D
    But that Heartbeat collection is also crucial.
  2. sberger

    sberger Grumpy(but grateful) geezer

    You would win your bet. It is killer. Great sound(according to the liners it's mastered from original records)and the music is terrific. Plus excellent liner notes for a neophyte like me.
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  3. Sedwards

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    I loved Til Shiloh (the album that Champion is on, along with other great cuts like Murderer and Complaint) when it came out. Also was a big fan of Inna Heights which followed Til Shiloh. Both great releases. Buju certainly had his issues, but purely from a musical perspective he is very talented. Agreed that some of his tracks (like Complaint) are not for anyone looking for laid back reggae but he does have some much more accessible and more mainstream material like Untold Stories and Not An Easy Road.

  4. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

    Two new ones announced by Doctor Bird:

    Sir J.J. Special: J.J. Johnson’s Ska and Rock Productions 1966-1968, 2CD: Various Artists - Sir J.J. Special J.J. Johnson’s Ska and Rock Productions 1966-1968 - 2CD - Cherry Red Records - Compilation that complements the previously announced Reggae Power.

    Morwell Unlimited / Prince Far I & The Arabs: A.1 Dub / Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Chapter IV, 2CD: Morwell Unlimited & Prince Far I & The Arabs: A.1 Dub / Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Chapter IV, 2CD - Cherry Red Records - The two Dub albums on the first disc, plus a whole disc of bonus tracks. The Morwells has been reissued on LP by MOV some time ago, so a CD by Doctor Bird has been excpected. Not sure why these two are packaged together, but great stuff nonetheless.
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  5. sberger

    sberger Grumpy(but grateful) geezer

    Listening to the great Joe Higgs "Unity Is Power" lp on Pressure Sounds and it's killer.

    But man, the liner notes describing the years of horrible treatment that he got from the business and fellow artists is some of the most depressing stuff you'll ever read. This genius was completely crapped on from the very beginning.
  6. Harry Hood

    Harry Hood Forum Resident

    Any recommendations please folks?

    I'm looking for nice 70's sound, range of instruments, stretched out tracks. I like guitar solos, keyboards, horn sections. Don't like electronic / processed 80's sound.

    I've already got
    Bob Marley
    Bunny Wailer
    Burning Spear
    Max Romeo
    Peter Tosh
    Steel Pulse
    Third World

    Who am I missing?

    (Love this thread. I made it to 10 pages, but I can't read 206!)
  7. Dubmart

    Dubmart Forum Resident

    Bristol, UK
    I don't usually promote things I put together, but on this occasion I think they may fit the bill:
    The Midlands Roots Explosion Volume Two, by Various Artists
    The Midlands Roots Explosion Volume One, by Various Artists
    The Bristol Roots Explosion, by Various Artists
    Black Roots - The Reggae Singles Anthology

    A few more to go on with:
    Junior Murvin "Police & Thieves"
    Horace Andy
    Misty In Roots "Live At The Counter Eurovision"
    Mighty Diamonds "Right Time"
    Jimmy Cliff any Island best of
    Black Uhuru Island period
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  8. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

    Staying with the big name artists, in addition to Dubmart's recommendations (which are seconded):

    Solo artists:
    Dennis Brown (any album up until mid-80s, also compilation needed)
    Gregory Isaacs (any album up until mid-80s, also compilation needed)
    Freddie McGregor (still relevant today, but start in the late 70s)
    Jacob Miller (avoid Inner Circle on Capitol and Island and get a compilation under J.M.'s name)

    Gladiators (start with Virgin/Frontline albums, add Nighthawk albums)
    Wailing Souls (anything up through the 80s, start with early Greensleeves albums)
    Twinkle Brothers (start with Countryman)
    Abyssinians (start with Satta Massagana aka Forward On To Zion)

    A couple not as big, but might suit:
    Pablo Moses (1st three Island albums)
    Ijahman Levi (Haile I Hymn and Are We A Warrior)

    To avoid a complete sausage-fest:
    Marcia Griffiths (Naturally and Steppin)
    Judy Mowatt (Black Woman)

    Want to try DJ?:
    I-Roy Presenting I Roy

    Want to try Dub?:
    Augustus Pablo King Tubbys Meets Rockers Uptown

    Want to try Instrumental?:
    Rico Man From Wareika

    A little bit of all the above mixed together:
    Lee Perry Super Ape

    You will also eventually have to get outside just going by artists and getting compilations centered around producers, studios and labels.
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  9. Harry Hood

    Harry Hood Forum Resident

    Wow, thanks for all your efforts, you two!

    I loved that Misty In Roots album when John Peel used to play it back in the day. I've bought it since, but was disappointed with the sound quality. A studio version of those tracks would be great.

    I've tried Black Uhuru a couple of times but, for me, they're close to the 80's processed sound that I don't want.

    Gregory Isaacs (Night Nurse?) and Dennis Brown - I've known the names since back in the day, but had the idea that they were a bit cheesy / smoochy?

    Will look for some of the other stuff. Seeing thise British compilations reminds me of Talisman (Dole Age) and Black Slate (Amigo), I bought those at the time.
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  10. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

    Dennis and Gregory are my favourites, sure some of their material is to the Lovers Rock side of things, Dennis can get poppy and Gregory can get smooth, but a lot if it is rootsy/cultural stuff, especially 70s recordings, try these albums:

    Dennis Brown - Wolf & Leopards, Visions Of Dennis Brown, Joseph's Coat Of Many Colours, Words Of Wisdom and Spellbound + some compilation(s) of earlier Niney the Observer productions (for example Just Dennis / Deep Down on Doctor Bird, also compiled on Heartbeat).

    Gregory Isaacs - Extra Classic, Mr. Isaacs, Cool Ruler, Soon Forward, The Lonely Lover and More Gregory + some compilation(s) of earlier Alvin Ranglin productions (available compiled over three CDs from either Jamaican Gold or Heartbeat).

    Even on Dennis' later cross-over attempts on A&M you get stuff like this:

    I also posted a Gregory clip just the other day (for his birthday), if you go back just a page.

    Out of the stuff listed they are definitely the odd ones out, as they are more of an 80s band, I am also not thrilled with their style myself, but many rate them as among the greatest, so deserve to be mentioned.
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  11. Dubmart

    Dubmart Forum Resident

    Bristol, UK
    The last couple of Talisman albums after they reformed are pretty decent and we put out a best of as well, though CD only.

    Was the Misty In Roots on People Unite, I've always thought the sound quality was very good for a live album, not sure what the KAZ version sounds like, the original master tapes were destroyed, but I don't know if that was before or after the Kaz release.

    "Night Nurse" may be too much of "the processed sound" for you, likewise avoid anything by him beyond the seventies and you may well enjoy Gregory, the same more or less goes for Dennis Brown, after about '79 a lot of his stuff is a more commercial sound.

    Try either of "The Midlands Roots" comps, I have a feeling they will be more up your street.
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  12. sberger

    sberger Grumpy(but grateful) geezer

    Glad you did. Just ordered the Midlands collections, plus a couple of other things from the Reggae Archives label. I'll pick up the Bristol and Black Roots collections at a later date.
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  13. django68

    django68 Forum Resident

    Abyssinians - Satta Massagana & Arise
    Israel Vibration - Same Song & Unconquered People
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  14. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

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  15. beenieman

    beenieman Forum Resident

    New Zealand
    Here's one of my favourites from Dobby.

    Dobby Dobson - This Is My Story

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  16. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

    He had hits not only for Treasure Isle but for Studio One as well:

    Is that from one of his later albums?
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  17. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

    Raleigh, N.C.
  18. beenieman

    beenieman Forum Resident

    New Zealand
    It's on his Sweet Dreams album from 1978. Never a single as far as I know but I've been playing it for a long time.
  19. django68

    django68 Forum Resident

    One of my favourites from Dobby, taking on Ben E. King's "Walking In The Footsteps Of A Fool"

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  20. Riccardo2

    Riccardo2 Forum Resident

    Sponji reggae
  21. Wayne Hubbard

    Wayne Hubbard Forum Resident

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  22. Wayne Hubbard

    Wayne Hubbard Forum Resident

    There's also this clip of "Want More" from Hamburg 1976 at the beginning of the Roots, Rock, Reggae documentary.

    If there was more footage of "Want More" there may be more from that concert as well.
  23. knb

    knb Forum Resident

    I would recommend their first album, before they teamed up with Sly & Robbie, originally called "Love Crisis" and then remixed as "Back Sounds of Freedom". IIRC, it got a five-star review from Vivien Goldman in "Sounds" back in the day, and it's still my favourite album of theirs. I think it's also one of the first albums Jammy produced.
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  24. MikaelaArsenault

    MikaelaArsenault Forum Resident

    New Hampshire
  25. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

    Since you haven't gone trough the thread I thought I could repeat these links which have been posted before, they're just one each out of two sets, but these are the ones that apply to what you're looking for. One is all the suggested listening from the "Roots Reggae" chapter of Rough Guide To Reggae (which is a recommended read if you can find it, it's out of print), the other is some anonymous guy's recommendations on rateyourmusic, but his selections are generally good and have little reviews on each album so you can see if they seem up your alley. (Both these lists suggest releases which are now old and out of print, there are often more recent versions available with the same material, but you get the general idea.)

    The Rough Guide To Reggae - Chapter 4 : Roots Reggae by kraemer.koelsch | Discogs Lists

    An artist I definetly forgot in my suggestions is Johnny Clarke and I guess I then should also mention Cornell Campell (this could go on forever), neither are really album artists (although Johnny has a couple solid ones on Virgin/Frontline), you need compilations and both have recent 2-CD compilations done by VP which I think are good value, focusing on their most important work (they expand on earlier B&F compilations). Also someone like Delory Wilson, who's most well known work may belong to a slightly earlier period, could be mentioned, the compilation on Pressure Sounds, Dub Plate Style, is a good place to go.

    That's cool, but it seems that type of sound, with all the sound effects etc., is not what the poster is after.

    I think one should keep an eye on the official Bob Marley channel on YouTube, it seems they are in the process of putting up a lot of videos and updating old footage etc., so who knows what will appear. Maybe not a whole concert, but complete footage to a song like that for example.

    Yeah, I would also suggest that (that Deluxe Edition collects most of the many variations, except the dub counterpart to the first version), or maybe the Showcase album, which is also in several versions, either simply titled Black Uhuru (on Virgin) or Guess Who's Coming To Dinner (on Heartbeat), over some of the later stuff, if one wants to avoid synthesized sounds etc.

    I have posted that link already, but here is the Observer as well: Dobby Dobson dies

    Also CaribbeanNationalWeekly: South Florida’s Jamaican-American Community Loses Popular Singer Dobby Dobson to COVID-19 - Caribbean News ,

    Here is another classic song, for Rupie Edwards, I found three different versions, this has least overdubs:

    I wasn't aware that he had also done production, for example on Message From The Meditations.

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