CTI Japan 2013 "Supreme Collection" Series (Direct from Masters- No EQ Added)

The four titles I downloaded were all DSD.

 

The hi res downloads at e-onkyo are no longer available outside Japan. e-Onkyo has become region restricted. I was lucky enough to get Red Clay, Blue Moses, and Gambler's Life in DSD, but I wanted to get at least two more when my wallet allowed.

 

They Exist! I was able to get all three volumes of the Summer Jazz At The Hollywood Bowl bonus CDs off ebay.



They come in mini jewel cases with specially fitted inserts that contain photos, concert credits and track listings. Interestingly they are not Blu-Spec CDs like the rest of the series, but are still apart of the CTI Supreme Collection.

 

Nice!! Great to know they included this live set. Good stuff. I've got this on vinyl. I like how they kept the aesthetics of the label. Enjoy!

 

I just listened to Deodato 2 and thought it sounded good. I did notice some distortion during the closing guitar solo on 'Knights In White Satin' starting around 5:25....is that on the Wilder mastered 40th anniversary version or did he somehow clean it up?

 

Deodato 2 was sadly not apart of the 40th Anniversary Editions. I did notice the distortion that you mentioned in a couple of the Japanese reissues especially the 2009 RVG remastering. It must be on the tapes. The 2013 issue sounds better over all though.

 

Interesting, I'm listening to this one right now and I really like the sound. The DirectStream DAC that I am using is dialing in the ambient nature of this recording and the sound is huge. No muffling for me, and no distortion. I haven't heard the Van Gelder CTI of this one, very happy with this Blu-Spec issue though.

 

Leroy, how is the mastering on the CTI Summer Jazz Series compared to the 2003 edition?
Thanks!

 

I don't think these "bonus" editions went down the same chain of production as the rest of the Supreme Collection series. One, they come in slim jewel cases as you can see, two they are not blu-spec CDs like the rest. And it is apparent that the dynamics have been compressed a little. The original 1991 CD issue had a DR score of 12 or 13 (I forget), the 2003 remastering was DR 11, and these new 2013 reissues are DR 9 for disc 1 & 2
and disc 3 is DR 10. While 1991 & 2003 issues sounded identical to my ears. The 2013 issues is not only noticeably louder, but have a different sound signature. Which makes me wonder if they are even come from the same tapes as the previous. These have a much warmer sound than the previous issues, and almost vinyl like sound.

 

Very interesting, thank you very much! You had the chance to listen to the 1991 edition, this cd is so rare... You are a lucky man!

 

I've now heard the Good King Bad from this series. To quote Meghan Trainor, "it's all about that bass, no treble." I don't agree it's not EQ'd, I just agree the EQ-ing didn't occur in the high end at all.

And I don't care for this mastering at all, either. More balanced than the 2013 Japan, but very blah. My father's old CTI vinyl sounded nothing like this, from memory.

I think I finally found the CD version of Good King Bad I can live with: the original 1989 Sony mastering (ZK 45226). Done by Mark Wilder, right around the same time of his stellar work on the Chicago Group Portrait box. Yes, it's EQ'd in the high end. And it needed it, IMO. Maybe a touch too much EQ, but it finally sounds ALIVE to me.

 

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@Leroy Bad @Lonson @rjstauber

 

Excellent find! The main treasure on there for me is the first CD debut of Yusef Lateef's IN A TEMPLE GARDEN. Been waiting on that one for years.
The track Confirmation should blow your mind!

 

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First time on CD for Stanley Turrentine's The Sugar Man, featuring George Benson, Kenny Burrell, Billy Cobham, and Ron Carter.

 

Thanks for the headsup!

 

Now that's a line up!!

 

I wonder if there will be any bonus CDs available if you send in the OBI pieces like the last time? And by 'available' I mean only to our friends in Japan. (this is where I start stamping my feet)

 

I wasn't happy with the Mosaic reissue at all. Very "thin". Not at all like what I remember the vinyl sounding like. I'm much happier with the 1989-ish CBS CD issue, done by Mark Wilder.

 

Nice to see the part 2 of this series coming out.

 

I bought all of the CTI Supreme CDs and am in the process of ripping them all. I just went to A/B between the Wilder 2010 and CTI Supreme 2013 of "Red Clay", and the CTI Supreme sounds like it has a (near) dropout at the very beginning - Freddie's first note (high E) - like he 'fracked' it. It might be easy to miss if you are not overly familiar with the source material. It's not apparent on any of the other versions I own (original LP, Epic / Legacy, and Masterworks Jazz). This makes me just a bit nervous about putting all my stock in these Supreme versions as the goto versions in my digital library!

 

Just curious: can anyone who bought the Onkyo DSF version of "Red Clay" confirm that the aforementioned frack is in the opening note? I've listened to the rest of the CTI Supreme CD version and it sounds fine otherwise; very similar to Wilder's 2010 Masterworks Jazz mastering, same tonality and essentially the same stereo field panning w/no tweaking (from L to R, Henderson, Carter, Hubbard, Hancock, White).

I wish I could un-hear things...!

 

If what you are describing is at the 00:01 timestamp, I can hear something faintly in the left channel for both the CD and the DSF file. It's so faint and so quick that I don't think many will notice. I hope that split second in time isn't ruining the whole album for you.
Wilder's Mastering is good, but he does use some EQ and stereo folding. The Japanese mastering is flat.

 

Another batch due out in a few weeks.

 

Thanks for checking it out for me, Leroy. Good to know that it's not a fault w/only the CD version/pressing. It is most definitely not faint to my ears, but I listen critically, and more oft than not with headphones as of late. Like subtle vinyl noise, I might not notice the frack via loudspeakers.