David Bowie LOVING THE ALIEN (1983-1988)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bowie Fett, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. urasam2

    urasam2 A Famous Potato

    Oh, the track I was most looking forward to was the 2018 new version of Never Let Me Down, but they've changed the chords and it's lost its charm for me. Boo.
     
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  2. scobb

    scobb Forum Resident

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  3. DesertHermit

    DesertHermit Forum Resident

    I preordered this and am yet to receive an email. It has not shipped but states delivery after 25 October. Such a ****ing joke :realmad::cussing:
     
  4. BlueSpeedway

    BlueSpeedway overground | underground

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    I don’t think there’ll be vast pages of negatives, or of positives. The interest isn’t there for this period or this box set, unlike the previous boxes.
     
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  5. scobb

    scobb Forum Resident

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    According to Amazon au my lp set won't ship till November 21st but has a delivery estimate of 7th November till 10th December?
     
  6. dtuck90

    dtuck90 Forum Resident

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    The original press release said there would be a hi res release but no breakdown of what would be included. I seem to remember the last set was delayed by a day or two last year so it may appear later
     
  7. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons To Be Cheerful Part 1

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    Awful. Did you get that message in a bottle from another stranded UPS employee ?

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  8. pathosdrama

    pathosdrama Forum Resident

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    1) backlash because the CDs are compressed and not audiophile-friendly
    2) backlash because of possibile mastering mistakes and/or tape problems transferred to the new digital masters
    3) backlash because NLMD18 is useless
    4) backlash because some rarity has been left out
    5) backlash because the live albums don't contain [insert title of favorite song] or because the setlist of the concert I attended in [insert date] was much more interesting
    6) backlash because Amazon is sending the package late
    7) backlash because the RCAs can't be bettered
    8) backlash because, you know, in the end this is '80s Bowie
     
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  9. windfall

    windfall Forum Resident

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    I've just been sampling via Spotify and listening to just a few songs (or the opening bars) reminds me why I hate 80s music in general, not just 80s Bowie. Slick, polite, soulless. The Serious Moonlight live album sounds pretty good. Always quite liked "Bang Bang", not sure why. Intrigued to hear the remake of NLMD. But at this moment glad I did not spring for the CD box, even though I have all the others. I guess I have discovered where my completest urge hits a red line: the 80s!
     
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  10. pathosdrama

    pathosdrama Forum Resident

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    Yeah, I was just listening the remake of NLMD on Spotify: hardly essential
     
  11. windfall

    windfall Forum Resident

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    The drums on the 87 live show seem to be mixed very loud, but I am listening on (quite good) PC speakers. Currently listening to Young Americans being pummelled into the ground.
     
  12. JumpinJimF

    JumpinJimF Forum Resident

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    Am listening to the '83 live set just now on Spotify. It's a bit slick of course, but I'm enjoying Cat People (overly melodramatic Bowie at his best).
     
  13. He is from Australia.If you don't know what that means with regards to Amazon look it up and then feel pity for us.
     
  14. BlueSpeedway

    BlueSpeedway overground | underground

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    Nothing in this box was ever on RCA.
     
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  15. EdwinM

    EdwinM Grumpy old man

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    They would have been better if the originals were released by RCA.
     
  16. mishima's dog

    mishima's dog Forum Resident

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    The original EMI Americas sound fantastic.
     
  17. jimod99

    jimod99 Daddy or chips?

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    Went into Saturn at 9.35am, no cd sets, asked at the counter and they only got 6 of 15 they had ordered and that didn’t even cover their store pre-orders, so they’ve reserved one for me when they get more in, they are hoping to get them by the end of next week.

    They did have one vinyl box but I was waiting to hear the cd’s before I decide if I’m going to spring for that.
     
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  18. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

    Well, mine was just delivered.

    I've had a quick look, and as usual they've done a great job of making the thing feel sturdy and well put together. Discs are gold, as usual. Only drawback in mine is a slight indentation on the cover of Tonight, it's a shame, but not something I'd send it back for. Everything else is looking good.

    I'm going to go for a listen of Let's Dance now. Why? Because clearly I am having a good day, and could do with bringing down. :D
     
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  19. Dave Thompson

    Dave Thompson Forum Resident

    Agreed. I had the vinyl box on pre-order, then sat back and wondered why? I doubt I've played the originals of any of these in over 20 years; I certainly wouldn't buy them as stand-alone reissues; I hate the idea of any artist's work being revised when they're no longer around to "get it right"; and my one favourite song from the entire period, "Absolute Beginners," seems only to be present in its bloated, over-saxed 12-inch form.

    I'll put the money aside for the Tin Machine box.
     
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  20. WeeSam

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    I still play Let's Dance very occasionally, maybe once a year in the car. I do like the three big singles and enjoy them if they come on a pub jukebox or the radio. I consider it the last of the classic run of albums.

    Can't remember the last time I listened to Tonight or NLMD all the way through: 30 years ago...?

    For the live stuff : I've got an external HD which has flacs of just about every available Bowie show on it (I often prefer listening to live recordings). I can't remember the last time I listened to a Serious Moonlight or Glass Spider show. The horn and sax arrangements replacing classic Bowie riffs are beyond annoying (for me). I'm one of the few people that preferred the hollowed out S+V tour band and Bowie's fkced up voice to the sound of the previous two tours (and that's saying something)

    Listened to NLMD2018 last night on Spotify. Removing the 80s glitz has not made it better. It's just made a naff glitzty record a naff dull record. The music is far too empty for Bowie's OTT high energy vocals. Its the sonic equivalent of a cut and shut banger.

    Once is enough for that.
     
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  21. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

    Phew. Okay, so one Let's Dance later....

    I don't have the original CD to hand, and I'm not inclined to run numbers right at this moment - I want to enjoy the box as it stands. That said, this CD is pretty loud. On checking, the original CD was DR14, this version is DR8. It sounds DR8 too.

    As for the album itself - what a weird record. It has some vocal performances which aren't the greatest, such as some of the obvious strain on Modern Love and Without You. Let's Dance, a track I like, is probably better in a cut down version, imo. Still, side one is kind of a "hits" package.

    Side 2 is where the interesting stuff is. Richochet is amazing. Criminal World is better than either Modern Love or China Girl, and while Cat People is inferior to the soundtrack version, it's still a good song. However, nothing - and I mean nothing - can justify Shake It. It's scary to think it's also on Dance.

    All in all then, it's obviously compressed, and I'd wager a good number of people are going to find this fatiguing. I'm okay right now, but reading posts by others on the forum I'm certain there'll be some angst. As an album, Let's Dance is a weird mash-up of pop Bowie, experimental Bowie (at least in the context of working with Nile Rodgers) and then some throwaway thing they salvaged from the cutting room floor (seemingly).

    Onwards and upwards!
     
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  22. DesertHermit

    DesertHermit Forum Resident

    I just checked and my delivery estimate is October 25 - October 31. I have Prime so I’m not sure if that makes a difference. JB HiFi wanted $540 for the set but I got it on Amazon.AU for $325.
     
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  23. EdwinM

    EdwinM Grumpy old man

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    Since mine apperently does not arrive until the 17th, I decided to buy two Iggy Pop albums (the idiot and lust for life). At least I will be able to compare some of the material of Let's Dance and Tonight with the original versions.
     
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  24. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons To Be Cheerful Part 1

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    Those are wonderful and will never bore.
     
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  25. Frightwig

    Frightwig Forum Resident

    This mob are truly reprehensible and inept. I’m venting to jeff@amazon.com to get the Australia ban overturned and I urge you to do so as well. I have never had a preorder honoured on release day. They’re usually cancelled or delayed months.
     

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