DCC Archive deaf musicians!!!

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  1. Unknown

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    It's bad, when the artists have control during the mastering... I did a meticulous A/B testing (same like the compilation) of the upcoming Jethro Tull remasters (all done at Abbey Road, supervised by Ian Anderson). The most tracks sound aweful... a far behind very old remasters from Mofi or the latest from DCC. Mofi couldn't use Super Bit Mapping on their first remasters, but they sound better in comparison against the compilation. Be aware... the upcoming remasters are far behind the mastering possibilities today!

    Luke mentioned the fake on The Who's LAL... I'm lucky I have saved my bucks! Ian Anderson and Pete Townshend should go into the old people's home!!!

    I think there are only a records, where the musicians were good involved the mastering... I like Roger Glover's job on all Deep Purple remasters/remixes.

    Maybe Steve or others can give more examples for good teamwork between the mastering engineer and the artists...
     
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    Yuck! I hate the Glover remix of Machine Head. And the remaster of the original mix failed to meet expectations. Then again, it was done by Peter Mew, who just can't suck enough.

    Steve, any chance of doing a DCC Machine Head?
    :)
     
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    You don't like Pete Mew... well, that's up to you!

    BUT... take a serious listening. The remix is far better than the original pressing on vinyl... I don't want talk about the 1st CD releases by Warner... they sound like ****! So the remaster is still much better than the original release.

    I know Steve Hoffman can do a lot... and we know he's the best mastering engineer! But he also can't perform miracles!

    Exceptionally I hate the remix of "Made In Japan" (3 CD set), but EMI's regular remaster of "Made In Japan" (half year lafter the DCC release) sounds pretty good to me... and it was remastered by Pete Mew.
     
  5. Dave

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    Fireblade,
    Have you heard the DCC Made In Japan? ;)
     
  6. Unknown

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    Yes, I have! It's a very good remaster and I like very much Steve's CD-LP remaster.
     
  7. Dave

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    Quite the improvement over any other version I have heard. How about you Fireblade? :)
     
  8. Unknown

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    Fireblade, I have no love lost for Mr. Mew given his work on the Beatles catalog.

    I never heard the first CD pressings of Machine Head, so I can't comment intelligently on it.

    I did have the original vinyl, and I am very familiar with the album. No, Mew's remaster isn't godawful, but I know what can be done with a good set of master tapes, and when DCC does Machine Head, I'll be first in line!
     
  9. Sckott

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    That's exactly what needs to be done. Master tapes from the Mobile, done on the right machines.

    I *LIKED* the Roger Glover remixes, because it revealed more music that was not there...however... it also was just a bonus against the original mix, rematsered into overbrightness.

    I own the WB Green label (w/the cool lyric sheet in purple). I had another copy when I was 5, along with Sabbath's Paranoid. When I found the Green label WB Mach.Head, I felt like I was "home" again. Lots of warm transients, great punch, vocals don't sound over-washy. Organ in "Lazy" I think was put through a "wah wah" or phasing box. It doesn't sound right at all on the remaster. If you take a look at the waveform, it looks like most Sonic Solutions "balls to the wall" justifications.

    The normal WB US CD, still should be available, doesn't have the harsh pushiness, but it sure has a lot of tape hiss and limp midrange.

    The DVD-A sounds like the Roger Glover 2CD too, the DD mix is very different at times. I haven't had time to play with the DVD-A much, but I will....
     
  10. Unknown

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    I think you nailed it on the Glover remix. There's definitely more detail there, and from an excercise in remixing standpoint, it's interesting. Hell, I'm glad they included it.

    But it's way too bright, and, as a purist, I want as close to what my 11-year-old ears remember.
     
  11. Unknown

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    A Leslie, I think.
     
  12. Unknown

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    Steve... EMI could located the original multi and mastertapes... yeah, it's possible Steve can d a better job. But when you compare all available pressings... there is no way! The best available version is the 25th years anniversary edition.

    Yes, I like the remix... better seperation of the instruments... altough I have to say I prefer the remaster, because it holds the feeling from this time .
     
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