Derek And The Dominos - Unreleased 2nd album

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  1. ranasakawa

    ranasakawa Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I have several grey area CDs of sessions from the 2nd aborted Derek & The Dominos album.
    There are a number of tracks that never were released officially.
    What I am interested in is who is the other guitarist that is playing some of the solo's? It does not sound like Eric Clapton at all.

    Were there anyone else who performed on the sessions other than the original band?

    I had a theory that it may be Steve Winwood or even Pete Townshend.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. Perhaps Bobby Whitlock since he is also a guitarist in addition to playing keys and singing.
     
  3. fifth beatle99

    fifth beatle99 Well-Known Member

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    I grabbed a copy off the internet a few years back, I was amazed to learn, mostly there was indeed a whole
    second album in the can\

    Some of these extra tracks do appear on the Layla box set as well??
     
  4. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    Only the standard 5 tracks originally pulled for the Crossroads box set made it to the most recent Layla box set (in addition to an early take of Got To Get Better In A Little While). I'm surprised more of musical performances from the aborted 2nd album sessions have not been released.
     
  5. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Milwaukee, WI
    Not at all. Most or all of the additional outtakes were unfinished.

    I believe there are two reasons:

    1) As above, the remaining outtakes are basically backing tracks.

    2) There may be a questions about who wrote some of the songs.
     
  6. masterbucket

    masterbucket Senior Member

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    Truthfully there is not much worth mentioning off the second album sessions.
    Must have been early on before Eric hit the door(probably knowing that nothing much was shaking overall)
    Interesting but nothing essential.
     
  7. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    That's what I'd say. More of a curiosity.
     
  8. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    I agree. A lot of the material is in incomplete form, but it certainly would be interesting to hear some of it in good sound quality as a curiosity.
     
  9. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    My recollection is it circulates in quality close to that of the rough mix tapes, but I honestly haven't paid a ton of attention.
     
  10. rockclassics

    rockclassics Forum Resident

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    It does. I picked up several boots with various tracks from the sessions. The sound is really quite good, but the songs are obviously unfinished. Even if these tracks had been finished, I heard nothing that approaches the songs that are on the Layla album. Got to Get Better In a Little While was the standout song IMO. I doubt that the second album would have done very well unless they had come up with some different / better songs.
     
  11. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    Agreed. The Layla album was not going to be matched. I can't imagine how it ever could have been matched. That isn't to say that there wasn't potential for a subsequent quality album, but not at the level of Layla.
     
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  12. rockclassics

    rockclassics Forum Resident

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    As I recall, Layla didn't start out as a top seller immediately either. It took awhile for the word to spread and people to hear it and realize just how good it is.
     
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  13. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    That is true, but I wasn't referring to initial sales. The creative and artistic legacy of the Layla album has not been matched by many rock albums as far as I am concerned, and it is highly unlikely (particularly based on the outtakes that exist from the aborted 2nd album) the 2nd album would have matched the quality of the first one.
     
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  14. JOSERENATO

    JOSERENATO Forum Resident

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  15. Bill Hart

    Bill Hart Forum Resident

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    And of course, the tragic story of Jim Gordon....
    Love Layla album. Pretty lousy recording, though, don't ya think?
     
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  16. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    It's unclear what "Moody Jam" is, but the rest of that appears to be rough mixes done at Criteria prior to the 461 sessions. "Instrumental" is Carl & Me (or Karl & Me).

    Looks like some rough mixes from Olympic, although it isn't clear where everything came from.

    It isn't perfect, but on the whole I love the sound of it.
     
  17. rgutter

    rgutter Forum Resident

    Actually, many of these tracks (Evil, Snake Lake Blues, Mean Old Frisco, One More Chance & of course Got To Get Better In A Little While) were released on Crossroads and noted as from the 2nd album sessions at Olympic.
     
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  18. rgutter

    rgutter Forum Resident

    I think it's Son of Apache. Is C/Karl & Me perhaps the short (~ 2 minute) instrumental from the sessions not found on this collection?
     
  19. somebodywhocares

    somebodywhocares Forum Resident

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    In my opinion, "Evil" is essential listening. In particular, Jim Gordon's incredibly tasty drumming is a real treat. I can't get enough of that track.
     
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  20. rburly

    rburly Sitting comfortably with Item 9

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    Here's my Tampa info:

    DEREK & THE DOMINOS featuring Duane Allman
    Live At Tampa

    Curtis Hixon Hall, Tampa, December 1, 1970
    Legendary concert remastered

    Disc 1:
    1. Layla
    2. Got To Get Better In A Little While
    3. Key To The Highway
    4. Why Does Love Got To Be So Bad

    Disc 2:
    1. Blues Power
    2. Have You Ever Loved A Woman
    3. Battle Of Red Wine
    4. Let It Rain
     
  21. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    The recording sessions were at Olympic, but the mixes I was talking about were done at Criteria in 1974. And Got To Get Better had that (later) Clavinet overdub.

    C/Karl & Me is 6:22. Some releases may indicate "Son of Apache", but that isn't what's on the tape boxes.
     
  22. rgutter

    rgutter Forum Resident

    Thanks for the clarifications!
     
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  23. William Bullard

    William Bullard New Member

    I just came upon "Devil Road" on YouTube, a very strong jam noted as "The Last Sessions." I was amazed as I thought I had found every EC tidbit out there. I do think this is EC; another possibility is dave Mason, another of my favorites, who by stories I've heard was unofficially a Domino after Duane went back to the ABB, and played on a few Dominos songs, including "Ain't that loving you," which is on a big EC boxed set from about 20 years ago.
     
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  24. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

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    Thanks for tipping me off to this. Just listened on youtube. I'm pretty good at spotting Dave Mason's guitar and I'm also quite confident this is EC playing- not Dave.
     
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