Discussion in 'Marketplace Discussions' started by Fripper, Jun 20, 2022.
Why did you give the vendor your phone number?
That was so long ago, I don't remember if it was even on the order form! I wanna say, somewhen around 2011...? I didn't even question it at the time, so I must have put it on something.
I know my real name and number was in the phone book back then.
Oh it's getting better. One user is going through my submissions including those for the label I run and the roles my ANV performs on the releases. He has changed every single one to disassociate the ANV from my real identity. This is just petty & spiteful stuff now.
There are some real idiots on Discogs, you can't avoid some of them. One record dealer I know, who used to sell on Discogs, was told by some people that the vintage LPs he listed for sale "didn't exist." Not only did he own them, but he wrote a discography and published it in how to identify the various pressings of the label. He abandoned Discogs as a waste of time, too bad, he's got some great stuff in his store.
If what he's doing is wrong, start a thread in the database forum as other users will chime in and help. You can also report the user for vandalising the database.
I've been selling on Discogs for like 10 years and just recently I've had several Cancelled - Non-Paying Buyer transactions, all from newbie buyers. Very annoying.
Ah yes - one of my friends with an acetate bought off a band member that played on it is accused of making the disc up and photoshopping the images.
That's easy to ignore. I'd not concern myself with defending it. A picture is worth a hundred bucks.
I have been making changes to Discogs database quite a bit. Not a single dispute thankfully. I've changed the year of release and even the country of pressing on some. When there are a lot of sellers of a given item, I start to wonder when they are going to come out after me after I do a major edit.
Sometimes I do small edits, go back and do a few more and add better pictures. In other words, I don't do a full-on reworking of the given entry all at once, but in smaller steps.
Last night I did an edit on an old early WB Target label CD. The entry said "no mention of Made in Japan on the disc." I changed it to "Made in Japan is stated on the lower six-o'clock position on the disc." One could see it faintly in the picture already up. And my original copy shows it clearly. That error had been up for 7 years and nobody changed it. I may add a picture from my copy and inactivate the current one where the print is so faint.
If what you did was correct, no one will bother you. I only get bothered when I do something wrong lol.
I often find errors in the notes section as, often, the original submitter used another entry as their starting point but then failed to delete information not pertinent to the release they entered.
There's a guy who spams all Led Zeppelin Classic Records entries with the BS that he bought the record like 7-8 years before they even existed and is relentlessly adamant about it. Is that you?
Yes, that is what is a common, and easy mistake to make. I got into it with a guy who does not buy or sell or have (I think) much of a collection on Discogs. He's only in it to contribute to the database. And he likes to go in and do edits on existing entries. As if he is keeping track of points gained or something.
Anyway, I mentioned it some time ago. But basically, he went into a series and took out the name of the series from the title line. Often imo the series is also a part of the title. Like "Super Hits Of The '70s - Have A Nice Day, Vol. 5" and then removing the Super Hits Of The '70s part from the title, and claiming only the "Have a Nice Day, Vol. 5" part is the real title, the other part is series only. He stood his ground being sure his fellow database editors would back him. Then he posted links to support his position on the database rules. The series in question was not a Rhino series. But I was following what I had seen done on all Rhino series sets. The series name is a part of the title as well.
So two things happened. The links he recklessly or carelessly provided - backed my position. And none of his friends or fellow contributors (whom he had invited) came into the thread to back him. He still stood his ground, as I flat out told him his position had more holes in it than Swiss Cheese! And furthermore, (I said) I am going in and fixing the entire series which he did a mass edit to without taking a poll on it in the forums or comments section. And while he was changing the titles on the entire series, he failed to fix obvious mistakes in other fields in the entries. In other words, he was into doing edits for the fun of it and his thrill, rather than getting everything absolutely correct.
When others were once again invited to come and defend his edits, a few showed up and told him that the "more complete title" is used when there is any question on the matter. Basically repeating what they had stated in the links he had provided.
So what I got from this is that there are people who are out there doing Discogs edits for their own feelings of control and influence, and digging sometimes into obscure sets and series where there are very few sellers, maybe no other contributors of the given title around and going to work on them. Some commented that these edits were "preference" edits. A new term I have not heard before.
So I won that edit war (all agreed with me), but it left me feeling kind of weird in my gut that I would be arguing with a person who had been around many years, and was far more experienced at it than I. It was in fact creepy.
I look at it this way; I'm not perfect. Other than the person changing the song titles to all caps I've had no problems with any of the few edits to the few entries I've made. I'm still amazed I did an entry for Goat's Head Soup. The CD can't be all that uncommon.
If I had more time, I'd do more entries because I've had a few come up that aren't there. The problem is that they can be time consuming. Maybe if and when I retire.....
Yeah there are and I always wondered what they got out of it.
They can be very helpful or, as you experienced, highly annoying. If they happen to hit on something you did that they don't agree with, they can be very aggressive about it and won't back down no matter how many times they are told they are wrong. I think they get a bit embarrassed when they're told they are wrong and, hence, find it harder to back down. They usually slink away though.
Never heard of "preference" edits either.
I'll summarize that guy for you:
Some people have far too much time on their hands, and not enough practical sense.
Discogs is too cheap to hire any professional curators to adjudicate stuff like this, so the amount of garbage in the database keeps getting larger.
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