SH Spotlight Distortion free trumpets in the 20s-40s. But BLUE NOTE? WHAT HAPPENED? RVG Evil Neumann mics?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. jaypee65

    jaypee65 Forum Resident

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    If you want to get deeper in jazz, there are plenty of classic recordings that while not "audiophile" are still indispensable. This is one of them.
    There's way to much emphasis put on the technical aspect of recordings -especially here- and not enough on the musical qualities.
    Jazz is a music created on the spot, if you avoid live recordings or simply "non-audiophile" recordings, you'll miss plenty of good music.
    Between "Jazz at the Pawnshop" and Blakey "Live at Birdland", an audiophile will tell you to take "Pawnshop". Except that, musically, "Pawnshop" is totally insignificant. While "Birdland" is an absolute classic with top notch musicians at the top of their games. Oh, and "Live at Birdland", while mono and live, sounds more than acceptable.
    My 2 cents.
     
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  2. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    I'd guess that it was your friend's ears that were damaged; that's not pejorative either, as mine are too.
     
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  3. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    If you're lucky enough to live in a place where that's an option...
     
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  4. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    Charlie Shavers was no slouch either...
     
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  5. Bobby Buckshot

    Bobby Buckshot Heavy on the grease please

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    Thanks. In the 4 years since I posted that (wow, has it really been that long?) I didn't avoid lo-fi live jazz recordings and actually prefer them over many studio sessions, especially Monk, Trane, Rollins, etc. Still don't have Pawnshop - and likely never will. :tiphat:
     
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  6. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

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    Aw, I'd guess that "in time," someone will come up with a way separate the tracks and modify them via computer however one wants them to be modified, if that's not already possible.
     
  7. Steve Hoffman

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    Don't hold your breath.
     
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  8. uzn007

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    Your ears were already ruined by decades of listening to lo-fi, overdriven, compressed Jamaican recordings, I'm guessing. ;)
     
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  9. Bobby Buckshot

    Bobby Buckshot Heavy on the grease please

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    And thank goodness for that! :cheers:
     
  10. Hamhead

    Hamhead The Bear From Delaware

    Speaking of Dizzy and distorted trumpets, you haven't lived until you heard this. The trumpets sound like fingernails on a chalkboard bumped to eleven.
    I have Louis Armstrong Decca 10" LP's from the same era and the trumpet is well recorded, this is recorded at the threshold of pain.

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    And it's a Norman Granz production.
     
  11. kt66brooklyn

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    I've been doing some listening to old vinyl via a low compliance moving coil cartridge/heavy tonearm recently. Not enough to change my profile- it's not dialed in yet.

    The results are interesting with Blue Notes. I'm lucky to have a bunch of early pressings from my flea market hunting days back in the 1990's.

    The cartridge and the records are both inherently inaccurate. However, when you combine the two, it gives the music something of a spotlighting effect, with each element emerging in an unfussy and engaging way.

    All those square wave over-driven things are still over-driven, but it's more like an electric guitar driven to occasional distortion on a friendly old Fender amplifier. More than anything, the midrange stands out and conveys the musical info. The frequency extremes are more or less superfluous and are represented by distortion (the bass too, sometimes).

    The first Blue Note I listened to this way was Grant Green's Sunday Mornin,' in mono. I didn't expect much, but it turned me in to an RVG convert instantly. Play a dull old record with a dull old cartridge and the result is magic.
     
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  12. kt66brooklyn

    kt66brooklyn Senior Member

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    It's all there from the get-go!
     
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  13. kt66brooklyn

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    That's a perfect example.
     
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