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Do you count non physical product that are in your streaming library as part of "your collection"?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Price.pittsburgh, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. Price.pittsburgh

    Price.pittsburgh Forum Resident Thread Starter

    If your streaming library consists of uploaded physical copies of cds as well as albums you never purchased but added to your library from the streaming service, do you count them equally as being part of your album collection?
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  2. TheMovieRad

    TheMovieRad Forum Resident

    Los Angeles, CA
    No. They don’t feel like actual property. I count the tangible albums...
  3. theshape

    theshape Forum Resident

    Saint Joseph, MO
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  4. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    To paraphrase TheWho
    See It
    Feel It
    Touch It

    Later on you can SELL it.
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  5. Price.pittsburgh

    Price.pittsburgh Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Okay, what if your a teen or young adult that owns no cds? Your collection is all albums you added to your library from say Apple Music, Spotify etc? Is it "your" library, as it says on the site?
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  6. Veni Vidi Vici

    Veni Vidi Vici Forum Resident

    Chicago, IL
    yes it is your "library", but it isn't a collection
  7. billnunan

    billnunan Forum Resident

    Cleveland, Ohio
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  8. vinylontubes

    vinylontubes Forum Resident

    Katy, TX
    You borrow from library. It's not your collection. I the case of Spotify, you pay dues for access to the library.
  9. Eleventh Earl of Mar

    Eleventh Earl of Mar Somehow got them all this far.

    New York
    Digital copies that I have locally, yeah but not included with my physical collection.

    You can't control when music gets pulled from a streaming service though you can keep anything local for as long as your storage isn't dead/you make backups.
  10. Kiss73

    Kiss73 Forum Resident

    No. If it's not on the shelf then it's not on the list.
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  11. joannenugent

    joannenugent Forum Resident

    East Coast USA
    In short: if I own it - then it counts. If I rent it - then it does not count.

    If it is something I own - regardless of format - such as CD or LP or digital download from HD tracks or a digital download from an artist website, I count it as part of my collection or library.

    If it is something that is in my “playlist” or “library” on a subscription based service, I do not count it. I have no control over this material and at any time the album can be updated with a different mastering, it can be edited, the service can loose rights to the album and it can be removed, etc

    Maybe it is an old fashioned view - but in my mind it is the distinction between a personal library (owned collection) and a public library (borrowed/rented collection). I have a hard time imagining someone treating a library book the same as a book they own.
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2019
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  12. NunoBento

    NunoBento Rock 'n' Roll Star

    No. If I can't hold it, it's not mine.

    There may be an exception to downloads you buy (i.e. Bruce Springsteen live releases). If you upload them to a hard drive, you can, well, hold the hard drive.
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  13. pathosdrama

    pathosdrama Forum Resident

    Firenze, Italy
  14. wolfram

    wolfram Slave to the rhythm

    Berlin, Germany
    No, but I count files on my hard drive (like downloads).
  15. Grant

    Grant Living in the 90s

    United States
    No. If I don't possess it and am able to have my way with it, then, no, it's not part of my collection.
  16. AudiophilePhil

    AudiophilePhil Senior Member

    San Diego, CA
  17. Kassonica

    Kassonica Forum Resident

    Lowat NO and no.
  18. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Forum Resident

    No. I only use streaming for playlists and quite often songs just disappear, so you can’t rely on them being there next time to go to play them.:)
  19. Price.pittsburgh

    Price.pittsburgh Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Just curious, how many of you guys actually do pay for a streaming service and add albums to your library?
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  20. HotelYorba101

    HotelYorba101 Forum Resident

    I have Spotify, however I don't add albums to my library. I like keeping things separate, so I have my Spotify with playlists, added albums, etc. basically its own library contained within the app. And separate from that I have my personal iTunes library that I use to sync with my iPod and add to

    I don't consider my Spotify library to be my "collection", however I do count my iTunes library as my collection since I purchased and own those files
  21. Squiggsy68

    Squiggsy68 Forum Resident

    Nope. If I don't have a physical copy then I don't consider it part of 'my' collection.

    It's not just about the monetary value, but I figure I can't sell bought downloads (of which I have very few anyway) or Tidal downloads (which are mostly just for portable use anyway - either a) things I'm interested in buying but want to listen to first, b) new records I've bought but haven't collected from store / put through cleaning machine yet, c) things I don't have download codes for (vinyl) or haven't been bothered to rip (cd)).

    It takes long enough keeping my Discogs collection up to date with physical stuff........
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  22. NunoBento

    NunoBento Rock 'n' Roll Star

    I do. But I don't consider ANYTHING on Spotify to be mine. Just rented music.
  23. Grohlfan

    Grohlfan Dan

    The ultimate tool to direct me to a possible addition to my collection.
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  24. Paul Rymer

    Paul Rymer Forum Resident

    No. If I like something enough I always end up buying a CD or vinyl. If something is truly impossible to find, or as a stopgap, I might buy high-res download as an alternative, and keep the files in a safe place.

    What I do like about the streaming services is that they have made some hard-to-find albums available again, many that will never get a physical reissue e.g. Japanese City Pop.
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  25. Anonamemouse

    Anonamemouse my other pink shirt is black too

    My collection is either in my cd cabinet or on my server. Anything streaming in from outside my walls is considered radio.

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