Do you count non physical product that are in your streaming library as part of "your collection"?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Price.pittsburgh, Dec 3, 2019.

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  1. PhoenixWoman

    PhoenixWoman Forum Resident

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    Some of us consider the extramusical attributes of an album to be art rather than fluff. I think a great album cover, something well-designed by someone like Roger Dean or Hipgnosis, is a wonderful and irreplaceable piece of art.

    But getting back to the point of this thread, the packaging isn't required to make music part of your collection if you personally don't value it.
     
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  2. PhoenixWoman

    PhoenixWoman Forum Resident

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    Related question: Is music that someone ripped/burned for you a part of your collection? Years ago, if someone taped an album for you, did you consider it part of your collection? Personally I did not and do not.
     
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  3. reddyempower

    reddyempower Forum Resident

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    Excellent discussion, each side civil and well written.
     
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  4. reddyempower

    reddyempower Forum Resident

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    I love streaming because it allows so much freedom, and because it's something that was at one time unimaginable- if you had told me as a 15 year old in 1985 that streaming was coming I'd have though it too good to be true.

    The funny thing is, I LOVE my physical collection. Streaming actually makes me feel better about it for some reason. I like the idea of my collection in its proper place while I am free to listen while I'm out or with friends etc...
     
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  5. HfxBob

    HfxBob Forum Resident

    Yes indeed. The music can be just one component of a multimedia experience, a feast for the senses. Who knew? :)
     
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  6. HotelYorba101

    HotelYorba101 Senior Member

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    You can start a burned CD collection though :D
     
  7. Gaslight

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    Eventually I will need to deal with this, also.

    Hopelly not for another decade or two.
     
  8. JackS

    JackS Then Play On

    no, and no to the first question
     
  9. eric777

    eric777 Astral Projectionist

    99.5% of my collection are digital downloads. The few remaining are CDs. I consider them all apart of my collection. As far as for my streaming library (I started the Apple Music service for my daughter and decided to do the family plan) I have not really thought about it.
     
  10. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    If I had any I would..
     
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  11. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    I do not and will not...all my music has been purchased years ago and currently as well...
     
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  12. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    To answer this would take the thread into that rabbit hole of the tired back and forth of the legalities of ripping your collection.
     
  13. Rocky's Owner

    Rocky's Owner I Don't Rent Air

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    I spoke to a neighbor today who works for one of the streaming companies. He told me people should enjoy all the low-priced content now while they still can, because prices are going to at least triple within the next few years. He also said that the record labels would soon begin to unveil their own streaming services, and that it would fragment the market. He said, depending on what they want, that people would most likely need to subscribe to five or more services in the next few years, and that total costs will start to approach cable TV rates i.e. around $80 total monthly if you want everything.
     
  14. schnitzerphilip

    schnitzerphilip "Modern Dad" Unlocked Award

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    The album art is important, I value it. Looks great on Apple TV on a 65" 4K HDR TV, looks great on CarPlay on an in-car entertainment system as well. On the Apple TV it has album art, liner notes, and lyrics that scroll with the music. Not much of an argument that a 4K image about 4x the size of the physical LP cover and 12x the size of a CD cover is more immersive and detailed, links to videos and outtakes too, so the album experience is expanded even further.
     
  15. Stereosound

    Stereosound Forum Resident

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    Tell your neighbor to tell his boss and his boss’s friends that it’s a stupid idea to try and follow the video companies ideas and to go to hell if they do!!!...
     
  16. jaypee65

    jaypee65 Forum Resident

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    Here we go again...
     
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  17. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    After 17 pages!:laugh:
     
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  18. Hot Ptah

    Hot Ptah Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    if it actually happens, I wonder if the experience of the visual streaming industry will be instructive. As we write in late 2019, the visual streaming industry is being fragmented with different media ownership groups setting up their own for-pay monthly subscription streaming sites and apps, not allowing Netflix to show their content. How many monthly subscriptions will millions of individuals and households decide to purchase? What is the limit? How many of these visual streaming sites will fail?

    Whatever happens may be duplicated with music streaming. Or maybe it won’t. No one really knows until it happens.

    For example, I have monthly subscriptions to Netflix, HBO and Amazon+. I am trying out the free one month trial of the Disney streaming site. I don’t think I will subscribe. I will forego whatever pleasures Disney may offer. I wonder how many other people will hit a wall and refuse to subscribe to any more services.

    If this happens on a wide scale, will people just not watch some of the good content out there and be all right with that, or will the visual streaming industry consolidate back again after some years of several sites not doing well? It all remains to be seen. Anything is possible.

    We live in an age of rapid change in how technology and big business intersect to bring us our entertainment and how it is charged for.
    Anyone who says that they know how this will come out may be presenting an agenda as no one really knows.

    I don’t discount the possibility that some people stating opinions on the future of streaming, either visuals or music, could have an economic stake in how either industry turns out. Like an executive in the early 1980s solemnly pondering the state of home video and strongly opining that Betamax will dominate the future for sure.
     
  19. schnitzerphilip

    schnitzerphilip "Modern Dad" Unlocked Award

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    It’s not going to happen. Don’t even discuss it. Not worth your time.
     
  20. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur!

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    "I have the world's largest seashell collection. I keep it on permanent display at beaches all over the world." - Steven Wright
     
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  21. jmrife

    jmrife Wife. Kids. Grandkids. Dog. Music.

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    What's the difference between owning digital files and owning a piece of plastic with pits?
     
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  22. schnitzerphilip

    schnitzerphilip "Modern Dad" Unlocked Award

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    Apparently, there is an imaginary doomsday where "files" all disappear. I could say the same thing about degrading aluminum and discontinued laser assemblies.
     
  23. nodeerforamonth

    nodeerforamonth Consistently misunderstood

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    Not much, but that's not the question.

    Streaming is not owning a digital file. It's playing a digital file stored on someone else's server/computer.

    If we're going to count streaming as part of my collection, then my collection is about 30 million songs.
     
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  24. c-eling

    c-eling They're made of light,We never would have guessed

    Mastering in most cases.
    Mixes/versions that may not be available in file form, or if they are have been massacred by today's modern mastering practices.
     
  25. Bob M.

    Bob M. Forum Resident

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    Great question! Something I never thought about. The answer for me is no. In my case, Digital library is for background music & physical media is for "listening"
     
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