Does Jimi Hendrix get enough credit for his lyrics

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tone, Aug 5, 2022.

  1. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    I do (how could you not?), and I don't think Jimi's lyrics are "hippyish". So we're back where we started and will have to disagree on that.
     
  2. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    What happened to just average?
     
  3. Wright

    Wright Forum Resident

    "Hippy-dippy" is the pejorative; "hippyish" is simply the adjectival form of "hippie". If you have something against hippies, you can't take for granted that others share that.
     
  4. CaptainFeedback1

    CaptainFeedback1 It's nothing personal.

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    You know fine well that I don't!

    Most of my favourite singers aren't 'great singers' necessarily... Hendrix's vocals drip with character, and his lyrics were pretty much perfect. Drifting may be my favourite song by anyone. It certainly is when it's playing anyway.
     
  5. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    Whether one thinks Jimi was a good lyricist or not, there is no question Jimi knew a great lyric when he heard one.
     
  6. speedracer

    speedracer Forum Resident

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    As was Jimi is my guess. The wiki I posted used weak examples, like the music going lower in tone to emphasize a dark lyric. As if they couldn't begin to fathom the Jimi school of total fusion of all elements of a song. Anyway, 1983 is an amazing word painting.
     
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  7. Evenflow82!

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    If you can connect with the Hendrix aura (psychedelic guitar god where anything is possible) the lyrics work incredibly well.

    If you're more of a straight ahead lyrics person not open to his expansive artistic and musical vision they're solid but not great.

    Just my two cents.
     
  8. jb welda

    jb welda yellow eyed dog

    He did not write Hey Joe

    jb
     
  9. HonestDenver

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    Well I'll remove myself from the conversation then. I really thought he did. whoops.
     
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  10. jb welda

    jb welda yellow eyed dog

    You only got one out of five wrong. If you were a MLB batter you would be doing pretty darn good.

    jb
     
  11. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    Not every Hendrix lyric is as significant as his best writing is, and we must remember that the majority of what is in print on CD is posthumous and many songs are presented with what were never intended to be anything more than working lyrics-in-progress, some even with dummy-lyrics serving as placeholders until the final lyrics come to mind. As we all know, John Lennon often worked that way writing song lyrics.
     
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  12. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    I think his best lyrics are in

    Red House
    In the Blues
    storytelling tradition.
    And what a blues it is!

    51st Anniversary
    In the same traditional story-vein lyrics-wise but a sly, bullet-rocker of a B-side.


    The Wind Cries Mary

    The Axis: Bold as Love album.

    If 6 was 9
    Deceptively spare lyric.
    It's quite the masterpiece on vinyl.

    Gold and Rose
    Thoughtful, sensitive, playful

    Spanish Castle Magic
    Little Wing


    Electric Ladyland

    Voodoo Chile
    1983
    Burning of the Midnight Lamp
    Voodoo Child (Slight Return)

    Midnight Lightning
    (South Saturn Delta vers.)


    Posthumous releases

    Angel
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2022
  13. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    There are certainly average lyricists, but I don't think Hendrix was one of them. His guitar prowess and pyrotechnics will always overshadow his brilliance as a songwriter and lyricist for many observers, but he really did compose some remarkable lyrics. The Wind Cries Mary, May This Be Love, Red House, Little Wing, One Rainy Wish, Bold As Love, Crosstown Traffic, 1983 (A Merman I Should Turn To Be), Gypsy Eyes, Angel, Drifting, etc. are all first-rate lyrical compositions.
     
  14. Old Fart At Play

    Old Fart At Play He won't eat it, he hates everything

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    I find a lot of Hendrix’s phrases and overall themes to be ideas that sound cool (groovy!), but ultimately are rather pointless. Purple Haze? Cool, but so what? There’s not a whole lot of depth, either emotionally or intellectually. He’s just throwing out cool-sounding phrases. Not terrible, but not a top-notch lyricist. Compare his writing to Leonard Cohen, to use one of his contemporaries (albeit one of the best lyricists around). There is no comparison. And I consider Willie Dixon, to use perhaps a more similar blues-based writer, to have more creative ideas and skillful use of language. Compared to Dixon, Hendrix’s songs sound like they were written quickly, they don’t sound like he spent hours and hours perfecting his lyrics to get them perfect. Dixon sounds like he spent his youth “practicing” writing songs, the way Hendrix did playing guitar.
     
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  15. kanakaris

    kanakaris Forum Resident

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    Average comment.
     
  16. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    You managed to remember a few titles I didn't think of when listing mine.

    Yeah totally agree Jimi was (quite high) above average in the lyrics department.

    I mean, jee-minnie krissmas if I could write a Gold and Rose or a Little Wing, I imagine I'd be a little hurt if no one at least came up and gave me a pat on the back and said, “nice try old boy
    :rolleyes:
     
  17. Old Fart At Play

    Old Fart At Play He won't eat it, he hates everything

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    Now I do agree with that!
     
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  18. jwoverho

    jwoverho Licensed Drug Dealer

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    I don’t think he gets enough credit as an artist. Basically the total package, and he burst onto the scene with a personal vision certainly the equal of any major popular musician at the time.
     
  19. Crimson Witch

    Crimson Witch Roll across the floor thru the hole & out the door

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    I should think (hope) that the music and lyrics of Jimi Hendrix will remain safely archived / enshrined for posterity - barring negligent mishandling or calamitous circumstances, the future will (I predict) be forever aware of the legacy of one James Marshall Hendrix. Historians and Musicologists - academia - will require mention of his contribution if wishing to trace evolutions of guitar-based rock music and its blues roots accurately. And that is hopefully what we would all strive for with that which matters to us - whatever it may happen to be. Om.
     
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  20. bluesky

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    Hendrix's lyrics are outrageous - as well as his guitar playing.

    Ozzy called Jimi Hendrix "an air-conditioned gypsy! "
     
  21. CaptainFeedback1

    CaptainFeedback1 It's nothing personal.

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    That's why they are so good. It takes effort to seem effortless.
     
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  22. DooDee

    DooDee Forum Resident

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    Many appear to have no idea. Rolling Stone Magazine & its pundits naturally had to rate Jimi Hendrix as the greatest guitarist of all time. But, in their list of the 100 Greatest Songwriters of All Time, Jimi Hendrix was nowhere to be found. They really missed out. :sweating:

     
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  23. classicrockguy

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    I think he's a very underrated songwriter. The Axis album seems to be much more lyric-oriented than the first. Very unique semi-spoken style that I don't think I've heard from anyone else. He was one of a kind for sure .
     
  24. DooDee

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    I'm listening to this song now. Incredible lyrics. Incredible song. Next on the play list is Hear My Train A Comin. Another great lyrical blues song.

     
  25. DooDee

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    The preciseness & economy (minimalism) above is so impactful, similar to Machine Gun. How to say so much with so few words:

    Machine gun
    Tearing my body all apart

    Machine gun
    Tearing my body all apart

    Evil man make me kill ya
    Evil man make you kill me
    Evil man make me kill you
    Even though we're only families apart

    Well I pick up my axe and fight like a farmer
    (You know what I mean)
    Hey and your bullets keep knocking me down
    Hey I pick up my axe and fight like a farmer now
    Yeah but you still blast me down to the ground

    Hey machine gun

     

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