Does sleeve damage bother you?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Diorama, Jan 21, 2019.

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  1. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    : )....; )...gaining brownie points, eh? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
     
  2. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    or those 2 dimples in the booklet...they scream aggravation!
     
  3. sunking101

    sunking101 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Yorkshire, England
    +1
    If the sleeve didn't matter most of us would be streaming. Of course it matters.
     
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  4. Scroller

    Scroller Hair Metal, Smooth Jazz, New Age...it's all good

    The less sleeve damage I get, the better I feel.
     
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  5. mahanusafa02

    mahanusafa02 Forum Resident

    Location:
    UK
    If the record is scarce enough and the vinyl itself in good shape, I couldn't care less if it's even got a sleeve at all. Record labels are the only artwork I really care about in the whole package. Of course I do take care of the sleeves in my collection properly, but most were decent to begin with, with 90+% being used.
     
  6. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

    Location:
    Dayton, Ohio USA
    Condition is everything to me. I look at condition of both the cover & the record.
    Recently saw a copy of this...

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    The vinyl was very clean, but there was heavy ring-wear on the cover. I passed.

    Darryl
     
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  7. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    Might aswell just have a white plain sleeve then and not bother with the artwork....:shh:
     
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  8. GubGub

    GubGub Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sussex
    Yep, me too (which is weird considering I actually worked in a record store for 18 months where we displayed the albums exactly this way) but it is absolutely true. Not only did they get grubby but the spine was often bent too. Without the Lp in the sleeve to preserve its form, the sleeves would bend over under their own weight in the racks and as a result of people leafing through them, me included.

    It must be almost impossible to find UK copies of anything from the 70s with pristine sleeves.
     
  9. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

    Location:
    Surrey BC.
    You could say the same for any merchandise then, however marketing gurus have proven that if you wrap things in an interesting design it is likely to sell better..
     
  10. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

    Location:
    Surrey BC.
    In Spillers Records in Cardiff they used a different model. They would actually take photocopies of the cover and glue that to a 12x12 piece of card, and keep all the records, with covers behind the counter.
     
  11. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

    Location:
    Lillington NC
    If the vinyl is in good shape that is really all that matters. Covers give the albums character and often tell a story. Writing on them, spill stains etc. are part of their history. I ended up with Mike Hester’s records when I bought a couple of boxes from an antique dealer that picked them up at an estate sale. There were also Evelyn Faulkner’s records, and then there were both names on some. Beach Boys, Ventures, Chet Atkins, Beatles all kinds of good 60s albums that these two had individually and then together. So I wonder why it was still Evelyn Faulkner not Evelyn Hester? Could they have been living together in rural 1960s NC! Did they eventually get married? Were they still together until one passed away? It is part of what makes collecting records so much fun.
     
  12. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    Some of these replies are quite amusing.
    No wonder when you receive a trashed sleeve that was graded ‘Near Mint’ on discogs, they are surprised you complain...:p
     
  13. zombiemodernist

    zombiemodernist Forum Resident

    Location:
    Northeastern USA
    As with anything else used, it depends. Preferably I'd have a great sleeve, no yellowing, clean corners etc. A little damage doesn't kill me if it's rare though. I bought a WLP pressing of Marquee Moon with some scuffs and spine cracking, because the vinyl was a solid VG++ surface, which mattered more to me in that instance. If it's common I usually seek out the best copy as there's no reason to settle.

    BTW, if anyone feels bad about how much they spend on records, take a look at an antiquarian book fair some time. The price of a valuable book with a clean DJ and no foxing inside really puts things in perspective.
     
  14. dadaalice

    dadaalice Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mpls MN
    Bothers me beyond belief. It is about the music but if I'm going to own a physical product it needs to be a physical product I'm proud to own and can enjoy just holding and looking at. To me thats a big part of enjoying a music collection as well.
     
  15. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Senior Member

    Location:
    USA
    All physical media damage bothers me. From record sleeves to CD cases.
     
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  16. MKHopkins

    MKHopkins Break out the Hats and Hooters

    Location:
    Beaver Falls, PA
    I buy primarily used- unless it’s something real oddball if the sleeve is bad I don’t even usually bother looking at the vinyl.

    That said oddly one thing I do think is kind of cool is a name and/or address someone has written or stamped on it. It gives me some history and you can look on googlemaps and think- this is where this record spent some or most of its time being enjoyed and who enjoyed it. Thanks for taking care of it!
     
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  17. Jimmy Mac

    Jimmy Mac Zooropa... better by design

    Compared to most other collectible hobbies, record collecting is one of the least expensive hobbies going.
     
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  18. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

    Location:
    Surrey BC.
    I only buy locally for used vinyl so that doesn't apply to me.
     
  19. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

    Location:
    Lillington NC
    Isn’t every CD case in existence at least cracked?
     
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  20. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

    Location:
    Lillington NC
    I’m the guy that comes by after you, checks out the vinyl, and buys it (after they moved it to the $3,$2,$1 bins.) Thanks!
     
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  21. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...

    It's far secondary to the condition of the vinyl for me.
     
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  22. MusicFan57

    MusicFan57 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Orlando
    YES! OCDism is a B*tch! I stare at the cover under a bright light, just looking for something to be slightly wrong, just so I can be bothered by it. It sucks. Same with glossy, larger books. Have to wash my hands, turn the pages using the very edge of the page, hold the book so that it's not all the way open and never let anyone else touch it! lol
     
  23. If I Can Dream_23

    If I Can Dream_23 Forum Resident

    Location:
    United States
    Yes. This x 1000.

    I don't mean that I need my collection to be mint. Not at all. Or even near mint. But the last thing I need is great music stored inside a stained or taped piece of garbage, hanging off of a beautiful shelf. As someone said, if collecting were just about music, there are much easier, though far less fulfilling, alternatives.

    It's kinda like anything you care enough about to actually take care of. I mean a car engine can be sound, long-lasting, and take you from point A to point B with zero letdown over the years. But what good is that if you are re-hinging the driver's side door everytime you walk out to it? :p
     
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  24. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    It's not that bad, momentary disappointment turns into sliding it into a clear outer sleeve, where it will stay at least until I'm dead, and gone.
    The record is what counts !
     
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  25. HiResGeek

    HiResGeek Seer of visions

    Location:
    Boston
    Generally speaking, I don't care too much. Hole punches, minor case cracks, booklet wear are very much a secondary concern for me. My main concern is the condition of the disc. But, I did order a "new" Decca Eloquence CD with Eduard van Beinum conducting Brahms in mono, and the CD case was literally fused together. It almost seemed to have melted shut. I had to destroy the case (carefully) to get at the disc (thankfully, the disc was in perfect condition). And this was ordered new from Amazon. That gets my goat. Or, if the booklet / inserts are basically destroyed. Overall though, I am fairly forgiving.
     
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