Drums on Pink Floyd's "Mother"

Yup. He just forges right through those bar lines.
The finished master sounds like Roger wanted the pulse to swing with the phrasing of the lyrics.

Jeff Porcaro does lay down a wonderful drum track.
Beautiful playing. Porcaro was bad, man.

 

Mason was basically the lead drummer on this as he was for most of the show. Wilson played extra accents, embellishments and percussion, and they doubled on the ‘fascist’ stuff, What Shall We So Now, and a few other bits. At no point was Wilson playing stuff to cover up for Mason.

 

Porcaro is just perfect on Mother. As a drummer, I am humbled every time I listen to it.

 

Money's 5/4, not 7/8. Gilmour's solo is in 4/4.

 

Jeff was a master. So smooth. I never thought about changing time signatures in that song at all, for good reason. Jeff made it sound effortless.

But...People just love to bag on Nick's playing. Why? He was really very good, and the perfect drummer for Floyd.

 

You could count/write anything in any time, really , but most folks would count money in 7. I'm not sure how you're hearing 5. Whether you interpret it as 7/4, 7/8, 7/2, etc. primarily depends on how you'd want to write it out. Normally, given the tempo, it would be written out in 7/4, because that would be easiest to read.

 

I love Nick - one of my favourite players. But so are Porcaro and Andy Newmark.

 

OK. Thinking about it, 7/4 works, though I never really thought about it. The turnaround in the riff is pretty easy, and the guitar solo is straight 4/4.

Oops. Sorry.

 

The simple answer is, the last time
Pink Floyd were a band was at
Abbey Road recording 'Wish You
Were Here'. And who should turn
up, to everyone's astonishment.
How fitting - the guy who was there
for the band's birth was there again,
at least physically anyway, to see
their finale as a true working unit.

 

Andy is severely underrated.

 

It’s 7/8.

 

He KILLS on Rogers's "Pros and Cons", IMO. Such expressiveness, he perfectly plays to Water's unhinged vocal and lyrics. And the drums sound PHENOMENAL. Again, all IMO...

 

All of the parts are great.

I love Nick's playing. Ain't bagging at all; just sayimg.

Andy's a bad cat also.

 

The time signature is all over the shop. Nick Mason stepped aside and let Jeff Porcaro drum on that track.

 

Yeah, think you nailed it. Mason got replaced on Mother, Gilmour on ITAOT and Waters replaced (on bass) on some Animals tracks. The idea was to make the best records possible.

 

You could count the main pattern as straight 7/4 with the blues shuffle 4/4... or 7/8 with the solo in double-time 4/4 (that's how it feels to me, because of the triplets in the drum pattern there). It's seven consecutive cash register noises on a loop, after all, not five

 

Should read 'stuff learnt on the forum'.

 

I have just listened the demo version with Mason on drums. His playing during verses is a trainwreck. Porcaro did a great job playing complicated stuff so effortlessly and cool. I doubt that Mason could ever played something like that.

 

This thread is blowing my pink floyd loving mind.

Seesaw is another drummer.
Animals has another bassist on many tracks.
Mason can't play drums to mother?

I didn't know they were almost a steely dan situation I just always thought my god pink floyd are good...really really good at making perfect spine tingling music.

This is a why I love this forum.

 

He had trouble with the time signatures (5/4 switching to 9/8 and regular 4/4), which make the song actually quite hard to play on drums. For the same reason he was replaced by Andy Newmark on "Two Suns In The Sunset" which also has irregular time signatures (9/8, 7/8 and 4/4).

 

Imagine someone finding that difficult trying to read a Stravinsky score.

 

7/4.

All seven are downbeats which they would not be if it was 7/8.

 

Wow that whole thing is dreadful compared to the final version. I see the point about the drums. Maybe Nick could have used some guidance from Ezrin rather than being pushed to the side.

 

Easy, the other bass player on Animals is David Gilmour, on Pigs at least playing fretless bass in an amazing way.

 

I think i’ve heard Mason state that he was happy with Jeffs participation. Seeing as Nick wasn’t that much on AMLOR he seems like a person focused on the finished product and if that doesnot include him then he can live with it.

It is obvious that Mason was at a loss as to what to do with it. And perhaps everyone else was too, leading to Jeff being brought in as “fresh ears”.