Early Take On The Mandalorian?

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by JFSebastion, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. JFSebastion

    JFSebastion Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I have watched the first 2 episodes and I am okay with the story line so far. I do wish they would tell us what planets the Mandalorian is on though. Like the premise and I also like the main character. I found the "Bounty Drode" humorous and deadly. Where should this series go? Do you like it? I think it is a small character study in the Big Star Wars Universe and I think that's why I like it. Your thoughts?
     
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  2. Michel_LeGrisbi

    Michel_LeGrisbi Far-Gone Accumulator ™

    I think it is a small character study in the Big Star Wars Universe

    That's why I liked it too, the franchise really needs to approach things from a different angle to stay interesting if they're going to continually pump out content. I liked it the same as 'Rogue One' & let's face it, it's being made to satisfy the older fan. It has more of the original trilogy feel yet grittier, loaded with stuff that the fans felt was cool. Star Wars has finally figured itself out. 'Mandalorian' hasn't captured my imagination or anything, it's very calculated & knows it's audience, but it's still worth checking out.
     
  3. bru87tr

    bru87tr Forum Resident

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    I like it a lot. Better than the last two SW films. Has an old trilogy feel.

    But, I also thought Solo was great.
     
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  4. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    I liked the first episode. Thought episode 2 was 30 minutes of boring filler and now I'm not so sure about this program. Lack of IG-11 in ep 2 probably helped fuel my boredom.
     
  5. rmath84

    rmath84 Forum Resident

    I'm enjoying it. It has a lived in look missing from the prequels. The fights are well done.
    Baby Yoda
    is cute without being annoying. I want the plush toy.
     
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  6. Parachute Woman

    Parachute Woman Forum Resident

    So far, I find it aggressively mediocre. The definition of "it's okay" with a shoulder shrug. I like the idea of it a lot, but nothing about the scripts has interested or excited me at all. If the goal is to be a small character study, they need to study their main character. So far, I have no sense at all of the Mandalorian himself. We are already at a disadvantage, not knowing his name or being able to see his face. I have no sense of his personality, interests, morals or anything. He's just a blank slate who is completing actions and tasks, almost like a video game lead.

    On the positive side, it is well shot and I like the music. I am holding out hope that it deepens and gets more interesting as we go along. It needs better scripts, in my opinion. I am primarily interested in character when it comes to storytelling. I can't get by just on cool atmosphere.

    For the record, I'm a big Star Wars fan. When it comes to Disney Star Wars, my opinions in general are thus: I love Rogue One and The Force Awakens. I thought Solo was bland, with some good parts. I think The Last Jedi is extremely uneven and messy, but I love everything in the film related to Kylo Ren, Rey and Luke.
     
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  7. GullGutt

    GullGutt Forum Resident

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    Saw the first episode, and found it so bad it was painful to watch....it's obviously made for kids
     
  8. daca

    daca Forum Resident

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    Not so fast my friend. If a parent or guardian is/are letting kids watch this unsupervised, then I would call their parenting or guardianship into question.

    This is made for adults. (With maybe the exception of the final scene of Episode 1.)

    That being said. The first two episodes look like a spaghetti western set in the Star Wars universe. The name of the Mandalorian, Mando, and one of the names given to Clint Eastwood in the Man With No Name Trilogy, “Manco,” is definitely not coincidental.

    After watching the first two episodes I can see elements/plots directly taken from or slightly altered from A Few Dollars More, A Fistful of Dollars, and to a lesser extent, The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.

    So far, I am pleased and like the episodes. However, if the story arc focuses on the “asset” at the end of Ep. 1, I reserve the right to change my opinion.

    Apologies for the double quote, but the Episode is designed to get adults shell out the monthly fee for the service. This is further exemplified due to the fact that the Mandalorian is a weekly, serialized show.

    Given the buzz that the first episode generated with the “asset” (aptly named) it will draw in people who a) can relate to characters from their childhood b) people who normally would pay it no mind, but think it is too cute. I have family members who fall into this category c) fear of missing out on something that is trending. This is obviously not a comprehensive list, but the marketing department at Diznee is not stupid. At a cost of $15M per episode, they are leaving little to chance.

    And Diznee is like the vile weed, once it permeates your household, especially with kids, good luck getting rid of it.
     
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  9. jeroemba

    jeroemba Forum Resident

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    It does feel like Star Wars but there is a very good reason for that:
    Jawas? Are they everywhere or was it Tatooine again? Baby Yoda? That's original... It could be great but at some point they should try to create their own thing and stop relying on old characters. One of the main influences for Ep 2 is "Lone Wolf, and Cub", an amazing Japanese films series.
     
  10. RolandG

    RolandG Forum Resident

    The Mandalorian

    How can the asset be Yoda, then?
     
  11. MrEWhite

    MrEWhite Forum Resident

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    Yoda’s species doesn’t have a name, so people are just calling him Baby Yoda. It’s not Yoda himself.
     
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  12. Haggis Wampovich

    Haggis Wampovich Forum Haggis

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    Watched the first two last night and I really enjoyed it. I like the fact that the dialogue is pulled back and pacing relies more on visuals and atmosphere.

    It has a Rogue One (a favorite of mine) meets A New Hope feel to it. I’m also happy about all the little Easter eggs from the classic trilogy that pop up. I wished for a series like this when I was a kid and now I’m getting is as a greying adult. Better late than never.
     
  13. We enjoyed the show. I good balance between story and effects.
     
  14. Pines Brook

    Pines Brook That sums up Squatter for me

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    If The Mandalorian is "made for adults", then so is every Star Wars film to date. There is nothing in the show (so far at least, I've only seen the first episode) that is any more adult than in any of the Star Wars films. Kenobi slicing an alien's arm off and it lying bloody on the floor, and Luke's aunt and uncle being burnt to a skeletal crisp, all in the first half hour of the original film - these are worse than anything in the Mandalorian.

    I actually expected The Mandalorian to be more adult (a la Netflix' take on Marvel shows) but I was mistaken, and in retrospect I don't know why I thought it would be. Disney+ is a kid-friendly service. I watched the first episode of The Mandalorian with my kids (7 and 11) and there was nothing in it remotely adult, other than certain aspects that are meant to nostalgically appeal to people who were Star Wars fans as kids decades ago.
     
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  15. daca

    daca Forum Resident

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    This we can agree on, as several shows on the National Geographic Channel are not on Diznee+.

    I would call the Mandalorian at minimum PG leaning towards PG-13 in certain scenes. However, if the “asset” is going to be the focal point of season, then I’ll say PG, with a heavy lean towards G.
     
  16. Chazro

    Chazro Forum Resident

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    Seems like an incredible waste of a prime asset, to have such a mercurial actor like Pedro Pascal (GOT, Narcos) and cover him up so completely that he's unrecognizable, it actually surprised me when I saw his name in the credits! It's a common failing; the full face mask, it's incredibly limiting video-wise. There's a reason why Iron Man, Spiderman, Panther, even Darth Vader, are constantly parading around without their headgear on!;)
     
  17. Because audiences are unimaginative and need to have handsome and/or beautiful faces paraded in front of them to be able to keep up?
     
  18. swandown

    swandown Under Assistant West Coast Forum Resident

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    Way too slow for my tastes. Aside from that, it felt like they couldn't decide between "kid show" or "adult show", so they kept switching back and forth between the two sensibilities.

    Also, I am not a huge fan of having the "good guys" commit murder. I understand that it can sometimes help to illustrate the conflicted nature of an "anti-hero" (see: "Han shoots first"), but I feel like such killings should be A) rare, and B) justified. But killing people whose only crime is that they scavenged parts from your abandoned ship and who otherwise had never so much as threatened to kill you?? NOT COOL.
     
  19. mBen989

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    I liked it.
     
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  20. It felt a lot like parts 1 and 2 were originally one long episode and got the big chop to fit into the Tuesday launch/Friday premiere model. I'll be very curious to see if episode 3 is a full hour; I can't imagine going to all this effort to chop it into sitcom-length bits.

    Thoroughly invested, though.
     
  21. DetroitDoomsayer

    DetroitDoomsayer Forum Middle Child

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    Good Guy?

    He a bounty hunter working in the seedy underworld.

    He's the protagonist, but he's definitely not a hero.
     
  22. ries

    ries Forum Resident

    Its okay I think? Dave Filoni is involved so I see this more as a live action Clone Wars/Rebels/Resistance (especially if you also look at the running times) then something Id compare with the films.
     
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  23. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden MichiGort Staff

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    I like it. I find the complaints about the episode length weird as they both feel complete and I do not need them to be padded. Heck, one of the best Star Wars TV products to date was Genndy Tartakovsky's hand animated Clone Wars series for Cartoon Network, and the first batch of those episodes were only a couple of minutes each.

    I would much rather have it this way than add a 10-15 minute subplot about Trade Federation political maneuvering. :laugh:
     
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  24. swandown

    swandown Under Assistant West Coast Forum Resident

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    Right, that's why I put "good guy" in quotes, and that's why I didn't call him a hero.

    He's a protagonist who commits murder without consequence. OK. That can work in noir settings, but I'm not so sure that audiences will accept it in the Disneyfied world of Star Wars. Even when it happened in other installments of the franchise (e.g., Rogue One), the killers ultimately paid for their deeds with their lives.

    The Mandalorian might be the first time in the Star Wars live-action universe that a protagonist committed unjustified murder without being punished for it in some way.
     
  25. It's interesting, especially with the blatant hanging-off-of-the-tank action scene lift from Indiana Jones, where the antagonists most certainly were the bad guys.
     

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